I guess this is a handling component, so I put it here. I didnt' want to respond to the post in the tech pages. Anyway...

I'm trying to decide between the TWM and the TRD short shifters, or if there are any other ones out there. The TRD says it actually changes the pivot point, but that the stick is the same lenght as stock. I know the TWM is shorter, but does it change the pivot point? Which is better? I would think changing the pivot point would be better, but I want a shorter stick as well.

Is there a shifter out that changes the pivot point and has a shorter shaft?
Or has anyone tried both and can tell me which is better, the shorter shaft, or the changed pivot point?

 

i have the TWM it is much better than stock, i do know that the trd throw is 25% reduction while the TWM is 30%

if you want a shorter shifter go with the TWM you will love it.

 

But the pivot point is the same, right?

Does anyone know if the TRD changes the pivot point by changing the positon on the stick, or by changing the box, cause I know it comes with the linkage box and everything, while the TWM only comes with the stick, right?

 

yeah the TWM is just linkage and it works very well, also it is cheaper than the TRD.
no the TWM does not change the pivot point, however it is still shorter throw than TRD

 

I see. Did you get the **** too? If you did, does it get hot in the summer? And how does it feel in your hands? If not, does the shifter feel as nice without it?

 

The TWM short shifter DOES move the pivot ball; however, it does reduce the height of the shifter whereas the TRD does not. Some people like the shortened height of the TWM while others have complained it's too much "like a joystick". it's really personal preference. Another option is the B&M shifter which keeps the stock height (like the TRD) but is cheaper i believe.

 

the b&m drops the height a little no where near as mutch as twm but it does shorten the height. i dont have either one i have just been looking in to them for a while some one posted pics some whre of the the b&m diff.

 

The TWM does it the "cheap way"

The TRD does it the "right" way, by changing the geometry, not just shortening the height.

 

the twm does both i think at any rate i like the look of it

 

Hey, whatever works. I was deciding between getting the tC or a used 2000 Mr2 Spyder and I fell in love with the short shifter. I think the stock stick on the tC is to long.

Where can the B&M shifter be purchased from? I went to http://www.bmracing.com and the page for the tC just said "test application"

 

pttuing im not sure the address but they have it b&m needs to update there ____

 

ptuning.com

 

I just read the descripton on PTunings site: changed pivot point and lower shift ****. exaclty what I want. Plus it's chaeper. I thinks tha'ts the one I'm gonna get. thanks all.

 

The TWM does not do it the cheap way, i happen to have it and when compared to the stock shifter the pivot point is changed about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch. Also it reduces the **** height by about 2.5 inches. So it does both, change pivot point and reduce **** height. The TRD changes pivot point, but also cost more because it comes with the shift ****, an extra 57 dollar value( price taken from mcgeorge) and it also is installed in the basket already which is alot easier to install. Whereas the TWM has you remove all sorts of parts to drop the new lever in.

Jay

 

me personaly, i would rather have the twm

 

i have the trd quick shift andreally love it.
it tightens up the otherwise sloppy gearbox. install is a piece of cake. believe me, it was my first such 'mod.' i've never even taken a console off before.
mcgeorge will get you the best price. resold the **** on ebay for $80, woo-ho!
think seriously before lowering the **** height. as it is, it lines your hand up real nicely with your elbow. having your hand slope down on the shifter might get a bit cumbersome. add a few drinks in the cupholders you've got a potentially sticky situation.
go trd.

 

^ theres no drinking in my car

 

^ yeah, um you're obviously very rad mr NOS.
maybe mr meaty likes to have beverages in his car.

 

twm is not cheap it all, it is a very nice product and anyone that has one will say the same thing. I have not herd one bad thing about twm. it offers the shortest throw right now. as far as the height it is a preference thing and you already said you wanted it lower. you can get the twm for about 10.00 more than the b&m and lower you shifter height more and reduce the throw as well.

 

correction i did some research
B&M on ebay for 116.00 + 9.00 s/h =128.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW
or
twm for 124.00 w/ free s/h
http://www.twmperformance.com/shorts...rtshifters.htm

twm 4.00 cheaper