DuMa

i cant find a good place to get these in 235/40/17

otherwise i go with hankook rs2s

playindagamewell

mine are finally installed... and on the car... :D
they feel great!

exige

how are these in the rain? verrrry important to me....i'm running g-force kdw's right now and couldn't complain at all about their performance in the rain...im lookin into tires for possible 19s...these are possible....just wonder about the wet weather....

playindagamewell

they are decent in the rain for normal driving
if your tracking they will blow in the rain...

as long as your not retarded in the rain ... or otherwise...
you will be fine in the rain...

exige

so these are better than the stock potenza's in the rain?

The_Instigator

Weve had a fair amount of rain over the last 2 weeks here in SoCal and I must admit these tires are quite good in the rain. The RT-615 is the successor to Falkens RT-215 and one of the areas they spent a lot of time on was improving wet weather performance, I would have a hard time comparing their performance vs the stock potenzas, but they are certainly no worse than the stock tires if that helps to answer your question. I have nothing but good things to say about these tires and would recommend them to anyone.

DuMa

how come i cant find these in 235/40 anywhere! aslaksjdlkahskldjhaksjdha

The_Instigator

If you look on the falken website it says that size is TBA and may not come out for a few more months. I would have preferred that size also, but im in no way unhappy with the 225/45

DuMa

i found it. its @ Edge Racing www.edgeracing.com

its $122 for 235/40/17 its hard to choose it when i can get the same size in Hankook RS2 for $105

The_Instigator

I paid $120 for my 225/45s with free shipping. The Azenis is a better tire than the RS2...$70 difference is pretty insignificant when you figure the tires are gonne be on the car for at least a year.

DuMa

better than the rs2? i dont really think so. theyre both are great bang for your buck tires. treadwear is virtually the same.

70 dollar difference is huge not to mention shipping, mounting and balancing on top of that. im not convinced one tire is better than another. its really a personal preference.

The_Instigator

There was an article in SCC or one of those mags and they did an overall tire test and they stated that the RT-615 was their favorite and bested the RS2 in the tests they put it through. Im not saying the RS2 is bad as i almost bought it, but they were the same price as my Azenis when I bought them so it was really a no brainer for me.

raamaudio

For all out grip, the Falcon wins.

For wet weather, the Hankook wins.

For steering response, the Falcon wins.

For weight, the Hankook wins.

For price, the Hankook wins.

What to do?

It depends on where you live, what kind of driving you do, etc. If in a rainy climate like mine(as of last summer), I chose the Hankooks in 235/40/17 and love them, far better performance than I though they would be. They are for what little street use our car gets(to and from driving events mainly) and wet weather autocrossing.

If I was still in So Cal, I would of gone with the Falcons. Even though they are a bit heavy, the added grip for ultimate dry cornering would of made me chose them.

Now for dry weather event tires, I will run the Hankooks to savey money at track days but if I was going to have a third set of wheels and tires, the Falcons. For autocrosses, there really is only one choice, Hoosier A series, I will need them, costly bastards that they are though

The best tire for you, depends on your "needs" budget and purpose, figure that out, the best tire will become evident once you do so.

Rick

playindagamewell

the article: http://www.grassrootsmotorsports.com...5_tiretest.pdf

The_Instigator

Wow....great article. That wasnt the one I was referring to (Im pretty sure it was in Sport Compact Car), but the overall impressions were pretty much the same.

playindagamewell

lol.. oops.. oh well..
but yeah i figured i'd post the article that sealed the deal on my buying those tires to help other people on the fence