But the potholes will kill your rims cuz of those rubberbands

 

if you know how to drive a lowered car the potholes really arent a factor. on another note i havent had that problem yet anyhow. and even with 18's potholes are still a factor. that little bit bigger of tire really doesnt make a difference. hitting a pothole at 55mph small or slightly bigger tire its not gonna matter.

 

This is not true. The sidewall flex absorbs most of the potholes or other road concerns. Not the rim, regardless of how many spokes your wheel has. My tC has 18's and I fly over potholes and have never had a bend in the wheel (235 sidewall aspect ratio). Even with a well tuned suspension, your ride may be good for a car sitting on 20's with very thin tires, but it will not be "smooth" by any means. My M3 came with 18's and I upgraded to 20's, spending a nice amount of money on the suspension. The ride is still not smooth, but acceptable for a car on 20's. And I'm almost positive my sidewall is thicker than yours.

 

ON TOPIC:
20s are the largest you should go...I have 20x7.5, and I'm planning a TRD drop just to be safe AND functional...I will go wider to MAYBE 8.5, but that's after I get TRUE COILOVERS!! Coilovers give you MANY more options than just adding springs...you can control the drop which is an option you may want on DUBS. 19s can be nice, but expensive b/c of how rare the size wheel AND tire...18s are good for Performance reasons (saving weight, etc.)....

If you're going for looks...DO THE DUBs (ladies love 'em)...if you're going for functionality and engine performance...stick with 18s (nice upgrade)...if you're going for cute....keep the damn 17s, lol!!

No offense the folks running stock....

 

a little more research is needed here. i have fully adjustable coilovers. lets see now, a factory tc rides on 17's with about 50 series tires correct? nice big side wall. my ride is far superior then a factory tc's, but yet im on 30 series tires. and thats not entirely true that the side wall flex absorbs most of the potholes, the suspension absorbs the force of it, beyond that the rim and the sidewall. this also depends on the quality of the tires. there are so many factors that play a part. all in all, with kyowa rims, 30 series hancook tires, i have a great ride still. nothing else to be said about that. oh , and no rubbin.
by the way how did you fit a 235 "sidewall aspect" on a tc. normal cars are between 50 series and 70 series. stock tc is 45 series. so please before you comment on a subject you have clearly displayed that you know nothing about, have a second though. 235 is the width of your tire killer. a 235 series would be an unbelievably big sidewall, unheard of even. your rims are most likely 235 40 R18. that would be a good guess. guess what that 40 is?

 

Stock tC rides on 45 series, not 50 genius. And yes it is true the sidewall flex absorbs most of the potholes/bumps, then the suspension. Do your research here and learn rather than sharing uneducated opinions with others here. Rims do not absorb anything measurable.

You are correct, I meant a 40 series sidewall with a 235 width tire. But the point of that is that I can run over potholes and not worry about bends to my rim. You have to avoid them, yet you mention "hitting a pothole at 55mph small or slightly bigger tire its not gonna matter." Yes it does, you can't do it like I can otherwise you will bend your wheel. If you believe a 20" wheel with a 30 series tire is just as safe as an 18" wheel with 40 series tire, you are more simple minded than you come across. I also have fully adjustable coils on my car, it doesn't make it more smooth than a stock M3. It just makes it better than other lowering options for a car.

And "no rubbin"? I didn't even question tires rubbing, let alone your lack of grammatical skills. But I'm sure it makes you feel much better to mention that doesn't it.

 

before you correct me please reread what you wrote. i put in my top paragraph that i believe it was a 50 series, in the paragraph below i stated that the stock tc rides on 45 series. and thats bull____ about the sidewall flex. if that was the case we wouldnt need nice suspensions now would we? hmm lets see, so more sidewall better ride? so why do lifted trucks who have sidewalls for days ride like ____?

oh and feel free to point out my typos _______. thanks for the good laugh.

as far as your comment on the 18's being as safe as the 20's, i never said that. but i did say that its minimal difference. 40 series tires are not much bigger then 30 series. you are talking 1/4 to 1/2 inch more of tire, big ____ing deal. c'mon seriously man, do some research. and your telling me that the rim's do not absorb a measurable amount of shock from the road? you have got to be kidding me. you must be one of those folks who go and buy 1 set of rims and think they know everything.
facts
stock wheels with B&G suspension, kinda bumpy but not too bad.
konig troubles, 40 series tires, same B&G suspension untampered (5 spoke rims) really roughly ride.
kyowa racing 20's, 30 series tires, SAME b&g suspension untampered (alot of spokes) better ride then both stock and konig.

you can argue all you want but the proof is there. im not in this argument to sell rims, to sell tires or suspension. im speaking off of personal experience.

oh and even with trd drop the konigs still rode alot roughly then stocks.

 

and stop being mad at me because you have 235 sidewalls on your tc. thats not my fault.

 

[quote="pollup"] as far as your comment on the 18's being as safe as the 20's, i never said that. but i did say that its minimal difference.

Yes you did. (quote) "and even with 18's potholes are still a factor. that little bit bigger of tire really doesnt make a difference. hitting a pothole at 55mph small or slightly bigger tire its not gonna matter."

(quote) "you can argue all you want but the proof is there."

The proof is where? Your opinion is proof? You can say your car rides as smooth as stock all you want, it's not proof.

And your welcome for pointing out your grammatical errors. They make a person sound highly uneducated. Case in point.

And I don't have 235 sidewalls, I corrected myself. Clearly reading comprehension owns you.

 

so you comment on my reading comprehension but you have managed to make yourself look like an idiot, once again.

i did not say 20's were safe as 18's, i sad having a little bit bigger of a tire REALLY DOESNT make a difference. I did not say they were the exact same. but the difference is minimal. and having a slightly bigger tire hitting a pothole really is not gonna matter. its all about the angle you hit the pot hole, speed your traveling, how deep the pothole is. there are too many factors to add up. but in reality for everyday driving i have had zero issues on 20 inch rims, point blank.

the proof is that i have tested the variables prior mentioned. just curious, how many variables have you tested? im guessing none. oh but wait, you have a suspension on your car. whoa slow down. im on my 5th suspension. trying different things to get the car to ride where i want it to.

feel free to comment back as much as you would like but i do believe you have proven my point by your lack of knowledge and ignorance. you have provided a decent amount of much needed entertainment for me today.

but back on topic, you will have no problems with the right size 20's, proper offset, and some 235 series sidewalls.

 

Of course you did. Again, I would ask you re-read your post, but as I mentioned before, reading comprehension gets the better of you. You will continue to twist your words and only focus on the bits and pieces that make you sound better.

I have stock suspension on my tC, it's my M3 that has coilovers. And I got it right the first time, I don't need to screw up four times such as yourself. But being the idiot you are, keep going for it. I'm sure one day you'll get it right.

I'm not going to waste anymore time arguing with a simple mind like you. I have many years of experience tuning my cars, all of which have been imports. Unlike the Geo and ghetto lowered pickup of your past. But I'm sure hispanics that pimp their geo's and low riders are all as wise as you

 

why do you keep talking about your M3? who gives a ____ about your M3?

and why did you have to go racial ____head. is that necessary?

dont be ____ed that i have owned 2 vehicles that have had more publicity then yours will ever have, oh but wait i was 16 when i built the geo and 19 for the silverado.
and your years of tuning mean ____ for suspension. imports or domestic. ive been through coilovers to air suspensions so on so forth. i dont claim that i know everything about suspension, but i have a firm grasp on it.

oh and i forgot, keep pimpin with your 600k hid's, your wider rear wheels (i know they are for all your HP from being turbo'd and when you drift) and your borla catback. i only bring up the exhaust due to the fact you claim to be turbo'd but run an extremely restrictive exhaust. nice waste of money. (since you are not smart enough to grasp the borla comment)

 

WTF?! You're talking about the Supra that I had, that is listed in my profile as "past rides"? Good job buddy, I don't even have that car anymore. As I said before, reading is not your thing.

I made reference to my M3 because you said I have a suspension setup, which I don't have in my tC. What am I supposed to call it? Please don't be upset that I drive a nicer car than you.

And please, spare me your crap. Trust me, I'm sure any moron who pimps a Geo is going to get publicity for it, same as someone pimping a ford festiva. See the "spot the rice and taters" thread. Yeah, I'm very jealous of you

You just can't stop can you? I'm not going to post on this thread anymore, unfortunately I took this too far off topic. But I'm sure you still will, just to make your tiny little ego feel better. So be my guest.

 

believe me if i wanted a nicer car i would have one. (without mommy and daddy to purchase mine).

your 25 years old, you have had a supra, an M3, and a new tc. Thank you santa claus for ive been a good lil boy each year.

back to the fact i was 16 when i did the geo, but as i said, it is a highly recognized geo and still is used as a selling point on many web pages. do you have a recognizeable vehicle? um no, people would drive right by you and not take a second look. even with the motor work to your bmw, the exterior still looks stock. (even if thats the look your going for, still looks like any other bmw). you can talk all your ____ that you like but i dont regret doing anything ive done to my vehicles before. it was a good learning experience.

 

My parents haven't spent anything on my cars. My first car was a hand me down from my sister. I drove that for 6 years before buying my own car. Every car after that I bought myself. I even own a home, which guess what? I financed myself. It's called six years of higher education with a graduate degree. Who would have guessed that employers pay well for those who work hard and have a good education. What a fascinating phenomenon.

I am glad nobody takes a second look at my tC. It's an almost stock daily driver. My M3 gets attention from those who can appreciate subtle mods, not tacky paint jobs, body kits, and oversized wheels, which you so nicely did with your last cars. Didn't your Geo have lambo doors yeah, real classy. I had a crappy car at 16 but I at least knew better than to try make it look even more like crap.

And I said I wouldn't post anymore, but I did need to correct you, yet again, on another mistaken comment.

 

if you say so killer. higher education and your trying to tell me you have 235 sidewalls. i would understand if that was a typo but you cant justify that.

your opinion on the geo is just that, an opinion. the fact that you did not like it doesnt bother me a bit, it wasnt made for your taste. i do look back in the end and see what i could have done better, worse, so on so forth. that was my first car i paid for, and i paid for all the modifications.

and im glad you own a home, and it only took you 6 years of higher education right? I would hardly call my wheels over sized. 18's on the geo, last time i checked your rims were 18's right? 20's on the silverado, dont they come stock with 20's now? i do believe their is an option for that. 20's on the tc, ok maybe they are a little oversized but in my opinion with the color of my car and the drop they look good.

and in conclusion, you my friend are the reason why higher education can be misused. the idea that you used a racial reference to get your point across definitely states your status in life and your position in society.

 

so back to the topic...you could put 36's on there if you lift the hell out of it but i'd say go with the 20's if you're looking for the biggest you can fit even with a drop...i'm going to go coil overs when i get mine so that way you don't have to worry if your drop is so low that it rubs and as for cornering and rubbing i'm also going to be getting some Hotchkiss sway bars to help prevent that...and as said before you should get like a 20x7.5 or 8 and not too small of an offset...that's explained in another topic...i'm surprised they haven't locked this yet..why don't you guys just PM each other if you're going to fight? some people actually look at these forums for help and don't want to read through pages of arguing about non topic related BS!

PS. Pollup....your car is SICK!!!! in a good way of course!

 

didnt want to get ugly but i hate racial comments.

thanks for the compliment by the way. now if i can only get my body shop to install my body kit properly

 

You know what, you're right. That comment was inappropriate and I apologize for saying it. I definitely didn't mean for it to sound the way it did.

Pollup, I'm sure you know you're car better than I. If you say it drives better than stock, than you're probably right. No hard feelings man.

 

sorry for coming off like an _______. saying it drives better then stock was just my opinion. im not a suspension tech, i can just comment on how i feel and what experiences i have been through in the car. i drive my car without fear of blowing a tire. if i do, ill get a new one, no biggie.

no hard feelings towards you as well.