hm so i guess the intake in my car does sound good. maybe i'll tape my phone in there to verify lol. btw u got a pic of how you mounted the intake using the 'universal strip'? jus wondering if you did it the same place as i did.

 

That's awesome. I'm really thinking I just want to slap on an intake for the growl, regardless of the claimed manufacturer hp/tq gains...

I've been looking at the Injen (have the CAI/SRI right now) and it as well has the smaller tube inside the SRI near the MAF Sensor. So I'm trying to learn more about what this tube does and how it affects the car. I'll have to search for it, but in another thread Papa_Bear was saying the Injen with that tube caused his car to dyno with a lean A/F mixture, which can cause your engine to run hotter and is never a smart idea.

Soooo I'm trying to learn more about this. For now we have Injen and Weapon R with this tube inside the main intake tube.

Here's the guts of the Injen:

 

The reason they want it to go leaner is because it makes more power but you sacrifice longevity. There is a lot of factors that go in to it though and it takes a little more knowledge about cars sensors and how they react to things to fully understand it but power is the ultimate goal.

As for weapon-r their tube is completely different in function as it is before the MAF. This is off there website "The concept is to create two different air velocity profiles, one traveling at higher speeds than the other. This technology increases air volume and speed to the engine, which naturally feeds the engine 3x more air than the conventional air intake system." I remember when this first came out they actually had flow bench sheets to verify the different velocities and was a pretty cool write up.

So just to sum it up they are there for different reasons and only one is actually tricking the MAF (Injen just to verify) the other is for creating different velocities of air which theoretically will allow more air

 

That doesn't answer my basic question, where is this inner tube on the Weapon-R SRI? The one on the Injen is off to the side of the MAF Sensor, and stops before it enters the intake. So how does this change the system to cause it to run lean and prevents the ECU from adapting to the lean situation and adapt?

All aftermarket filters change the A/F ratio on the car, and your ECU adapts. Just wondering why it is so different?

 

He already answered the question for where the tube is on the weapon-r

 

what universal stripe? lol might need to post a pic..



thats what the inside of the intake looks like.. idk what that thing on the injen intake would do lol

yes and more air is better!!!


and someone asked what the intake looks like...

 

I don't know if it makes a difference, but the MAF is before the double-tube so it experiences air flow straight from the filter. if the inner-tube does to anything, it only affects air going into the engine not the MAF.

jtk2, did you use the stock breather tube or the weapon-r one? and the question from before: did you use a mount for your intake? if so u got a pic?

 

i used weapon r's breather tube. and did not mount the intake. was curious how you mounted yours?

 

As I said, injen isn't the only one that tricks the maf sensor. The weapon r short ram and many others do the same thing in a diffrent way.

Injen uses a tube, and weapn r reduces the diameter where the maf sensor goes.

As you can see with the weapon r sri intake the maf section of the pipe is still smaller than the rest of the tube. You are still tricking the maf one way or the other. The design near the maf sensor is their for a purpose. That section or the diameter is exactly the same size or very close to the oems tube size so it can maintain the fixed amount of air flow that the oem sensor and the stock ecu can sense.


The tube in injens intake is right where the maf sensor is because it is collecting that air and that air only to give your factory sensor the correct or near correct amount of air flow.


Ask yourself this.

Why didn't weapon r keep the same size diameter throughout the whole tube?

Why right near the maf is there a reduce in size?

Because it is tricking the maf sensor that's why


Read this...

http://www.jegs.com/p/AEM-Induction/...45125/10002/-1


http://riotfest.net/96/new-automotiv...ance-potential

 

Papa_Bear, chill. I was asking where the tube was so we could see it. The Weapon R info I've been able to google often shows/says that placement of the tube may differ based on the applications. Just wanted to see if anyone had an actual photo of the intake for our car.

I personally don't care which intake anyone buys, I just want to gather as much info as possible so we can have a point where new buyers can come in and not sort through thread after thread, and maybe answer their questions before they all throw posts in here looking for photos or dyno results for Intake XY or Z.

I am also trying to work with Injen for a direct answer to what that small tube actually does and throwing the A/F running lean at them as well to see what they say.

 

O.k., so it has been a while.
What do you guys think about your intakes?
I am trying to decide which one to get.
Thanks.

 

still love it like the day i first installed it! imo. i would vote weapon r intake. just saying lol