Why I should buy Descendant vs. P-Tuning turbo and vice versa?
#1
Why I should buy Descendant vs. P-Tuning turbo and vice versa?
Confused as to which to go with. Any input, especially from both vendors would help. Don't mean to start a war, but just want to know differences.
#2
You probably can get all the answers you need from the two manufacturer's threads located just below your thread.
If you have any particular questions, please don't hesitate to PM us.
Best way to compare the two kits is to look at the kit content.
Here is the PTUNING tC2 turbo kit thread, in case you are interested:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...195075&page=10
Regards,
Mike @ PTUNING
If you have any particular questions, please don't hesitate to PM us.
Best way to compare the two kits is to look at the kit content.
Here is the PTUNING tC2 turbo kit thread, in case you are interested:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...195075&page=10
Regards,
Mike @ PTUNING
Last edited by PTUNING; 07-11-2011 at 04:53 PM.
#3
Here is a link to the 2011 scion tC turbo kit and some videos.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=194490
If you have any questions give us a call or pm.
WORLD-Motorsports West
2170 W.190th Street
Torrance, CA 90504
p. 310.533.8900
f. 310.533.8160
__________________
www.DESCENDANT-racing.com
www.WORLD-racing.com
www.WORLD-motorsports.com
#4
lol, that about sums it up.
personal experiences wont really help you much, people will tell you to get the kit that they purchased, since its the only side they know.
also people will tell you to stay away from shops theyve had bad experiences with.
personnaly, coming from a person with neither product (that would be me) you should go with the kit that 1) suits your ultimate power goals and 2) is closer to you to make trouble shooting and customer service faster easier and faster.
honestly if ptuning was down my block or a couple hours away, i wouldnt hesitate to chose them, lol
my $0.02
personal experiences wont really help you much, people will tell you to get the kit that they purchased, since its the only side they know.
also people will tell you to stay away from shops theyve had bad experiences with.
personnaly, coming from a person with neither product (that would be me) you should go with the kit that 1) suits your ultimate power goals and 2) is closer to you to make trouble shooting and customer service faster easier and faster.
honestly if ptuning was down my block or a couple hours away, i wouldnt hesitate to chose them, lol
my $0.02
#7
I agree. I'm in the market for a turbo kit currently, and while I've talked to the guys over at descendant, the only differences I know of between them is the way that they look. And they even look pretty similar. Hopefully someone can give us an idea which turbo kit would actually be better. Like which one provides the most hp/ torque, what is the amount of boost each one puts out? Little things like that.
#8
Contents of PTUNING kit:
Turbocharger:
. Garret T3/04E 57 trim .82 A/R with v-band turbine outlet.
. SS Braided oil feed line.
. SS Braided oil return line.
Exhaust Components:
. Full 304 SS equal length manifold.
. Turbosmart 45mm Wastegate.
. Full 304SS 3" v-band downpipe.
Piping/Intercooler Components:
. 22"x8"x3.5" bar&plate Intercooler with 2.5" in/out w/cast end tanks.
. Aluminum upper intercooler piping w/beaded ends and blow-thru MAF
housing.
. Aluminum upper intercooler piping w/beaded ends.
. Turbosmart Race Port Blow-Off Valve.
. 304SS T-bolt clamps for all connections.
. 4/5 ply silicone hose connectors.
. I/C piping in Polished.
. AEM Dryflow.
. 2 SPAL radiator fans.
Fueling:
. AEM F/IC ECU.
. PnP F/IC harness.
. Professionally dyno-tuned base map.
. DeatschWerks 550cc PnP Fuel Injectors.
Contents of Descendant Kit:
DESCENDANT S.S. Turbo Manifold
DESCENDANT Aluminum Intercooler Tubing Kit
DESCENDANT Side Mount Intercooler
DESCENDANT S-Pipe
DESCENDANT OBD2 Down-Pipe
DESCENDANT Emission Control Brackets & Mounts
DESCENDANT P-N-P Engine Wire Harness
DESCENDANT Custom Fuel Map
DESCENDANT Custom 55mm. V-Band Turbocharger
Bosch - OEM Style Recirculating B.O.V.
Tial MV-S Wastegate
AEM F/I C Controller *tuning is required for maximum performance gains.
Deatsch Werks Injector P-N-P 750cc Injectors
Personally, I'm still holding out until GReddy releases their turbo kit...which should've been november.
Turbocharger:
. Garret T3/04E 57 trim .82 A/R with v-band turbine outlet.
. SS Braided oil feed line.
. SS Braided oil return line.
Exhaust Components:
. Full 304 SS equal length manifold.
. Turbosmart 45mm Wastegate.
. Full 304SS 3" v-band downpipe.
Piping/Intercooler Components:
. 22"x8"x3.5" bar&plate Intercooler with 2.5" in/out w/cast end tanks.
. Aluminum upper intercooler piping w/beaded ends and blow-thru MAF
housing.
. Aluminum upper intercooler piping w/beaded ends.
. Turbosmart Race Port Blow-Off Valve.
. 304SS T-bolt clamps for all connections.
. 4/5 ply silicone hose connectors.
. I/C piping in Polished.
. AEM Dryflow.
. 2 SPAL radiator fans.
Fueling:
. AEM F/IC ECU.
. PnP F/IC harness.
. Professionally dyno-tuned base map.
. DeatschWerks 550cc PnP Fuel Injectors.
Contents of Descendant Kit:
DESCENDANT S.S. Turbo Manifold
DESCENDANT Aluminum Intercooler Tubing Kit
DESCENDANT Side Mount Intercooler
DESCENDANT S-Pipe
DESCENDANT OBD2 Down-Pipe
DESCENDANT Emission Control Brackets & Mounts
DESCENDANT P-N-P Engine Wire Harness
DESCENDANT Custom Fuel Map
DESCENDANT Custom 55mm. V-Band Turbocharger
Bosch - OEM Style Recirculating B.O.V.
Tial MV-S Wastegate
AEM F/I C Controller *tuning is required for maximum performance gains.
Deatsch Werks Injector P-N-P 750cc Injectors
Personally, I'm still holding out until GReddy releases their turbo kit...which should've been november.
#9
Scionchicop
Here is a link to the 2011 scion tC turbo kit and some videos.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=194490
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNlh4jT4L-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyi4bw4AB2s&NR=1
If you have any questions give us a call or pm.
WORLD-Motorsports West
2170 W.190th Street
Torrance, CA 90504
p. 310.533.8900
f. 310.533.8160
__________________
www.DESCENDANT-racing.com
www.WORLD-racing.com
www.WORLD-motorsports.com
Here is a link to the 2011 scion tC turbo kit and some videos.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=194490
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNlh4jT4L-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyi4bw4AB2s&NR=1
If you have any questions give us a call or pm.
WORLD-Motorsports West
2170 W.190th Street
Torrance, CA 90504
p. 310.533.8900
f. 310.533.8160
__________________
www.DESCENDANT-racing.com
www.WORLD-racing.com
www.WORLD-motorsports.com
#10
I agree. I'm in the market for a turbo kit currently, and while I've talked to the guys over at descendant, the only differences I know of between them is the way that they look. And they even look pretty similar. Hopefully someone can give us an idea which turbo kit would actually be better. Like which one provides the most hp/ torque, what is the amount of boost each one puts out? Little things like that.
#13
Here is a video install we have for our tC2 Turbo kit. If anyone have any questions please feel free to contact us.
tC2 instal video part#1
tC2 instal video part#2
Thank you,
Rob Cardona
WORLD-Racing.com | WORLD-Motorsports.com | DESCENDANT-Racing.com
2170 W. 190th St.
Torrance, CA 90504
P. 310.533.8900
F. 424.757.9027
tC2 instal video part#1
tC2 instal video part#2
Thank you,
Rob Cardona
WORLD-Racing.com | WORLD-Motorsports.com | DESCENDANT-Racing.com
2170 W. 190th St.
Torrance, CA 90504
P. 310.533.8900
F. 424.757.9027
#18
DESCENDANT FTW! the price is amazing for what you get. I got it back about 5 months ago and imvglad i got this kit. Theyve been working with tcs especially longer than anyone out there, their cars and even their service speaks for itself. Descendant is the way to go, never second guessed it.
#19
Your statement here is false. We have been in the Scion game since 2005. This is when the car was conceived from Toyota. Our 1st turbo system has been outstanding since 2006. Descendant didn't even begin offering retail kits until 2007 or 8.
Our kit contents:
System component list
Genuine Garrett T3/T04E turbocharger
Stainless steel braided -4 AN oil feed line
-10AN oil return line
CNC insta-tap Oil Pan System (no welding required)
Stainless steel "Ram Horn" tubular TIG welded turbo manifold (3/8” thick head flange)
TiAL 38mm V-band wastegate
Stainless steel 2.5” downpipe w/ flex section & v-band connection
Stainless steel s-pipe w/ v-band connection (bolts to stock exhaust or aftermarket)
TiAL Q 50mm blow off valve
Front mount intercooler 26”x 6.5” x 3.5”
Mandrel bent, light weight, SFP Technology aluminum intercooler pipes
2.5” aluminum intake system with DSS Technology MAF housing
K&N filter
4 ply silicone couplers
T-bolt clamps & Stainless Worm gear
Turbo install kit
CNC vacuum manifold (for a cleaner install)
Plug-N-Play 550cc fuel injectors (no cutting or splicing)
AEM Fuel & Ignition Controller (AEM FIC) w/ Base Calibration
Custom wiring harness for the AEM FIC (no cutting or splicing required)
http://www.dezod.com/pd-dezod-scion-...rbo-system.cfm
American made quality and craftsmanship are alive and well here.
Our kit contents:
System component list
Genuine Garrett T3/T04E turbocharger
Stainless steel braided -4 AN oil feed line
-10AN oil return line
CNC insta-tap Oil Pan System (no welding required)
Stainless steel "Ram Horn" tubular TIG welded turbo manifold (3/8” thick head flange)
TiAL 38mm V-band wastegate
Stainless steel 2.5” downpipe w/ flex section & v-band connection
Stainless steel s-pipe w/ v-band connection (bolts to stock exhaust or aftermarket)
TiAL Q 50mm blow off valve
Front mount intercooler 26”x 6.5” x 3.5”
Mandrel bent, light weight, SFP Technology aluminum intercooler pipes
2.5” aluminum intake system with DSS Technology MAF housing
K&N filter
4 ply silicone couplers
T-bolt clamps & Stainless Worm gear
Turbo install kit
CNC vacuum manifold (for a cleaner install)
Plug-N-Play 550cc fuel injectors (no cutting or splicing)
AEM Fuel & Ignition Controller (AEM FIC) w/ Base Calibration
Custom wiring harness for the AEM FIC (no cutting or splicing required)
http://www.dezod.com/pd-dezod-scion-...rbo-system.cfm
American made quality and craftsmanship are alive and well here.
#20
I like some parts of your kit a lot more than descendants. However at the price i paid forvit, i havebno right to complain. Also paul i have a question. How did you guys fit a front mount to the car? Did you have to cut the bumper or w.e? Im a friend of mikes by the way. Good guy. His tcvturned out really nice