First off, I searched for something on this and didn't find anything so if there is a thread on this then Mods please merge them.

So I emailed GReddy over the weekend about the Tc2 turbo a lot of us are waiting on. Well I got an email back today and I thought I'd share it with you guys.

"Hi,

Thank you for your inquiry. We do have a kit already developed for tC2 however release date it still to be annouced. We still do not see the demand for what we will further have to invest for this product to go into production.

Thanks!"

So what i see needs to happen is more people need to let them know that there is still interest in this kit. I personally would love to see options other than P-Tuning and Descendant. The more the better.

 

No harm in sending an email. Maybe even start a group buy but I'm sure most people are broke right now after the holidays. However taxes are coming soon!

 

Dear Greddy,

If you do not see the demand for the tc2 turbo kit, than you are not paying attention.

 

if they would give a price estimate then you could get a head count and send them that

 

I would def b interested in getting a kit from them, but as everyone says. How much? Lol

 

trust me... the price of their kit would be higher than what most tC2 owners would pay. esp depending. not saying that is bad, cause GReddy is definitely worth the $$...but most of us would not be willing to pay it. which is why they don't see a good enough demand, demand meaning "enough tC2 owners interested and willing to pay"

source: i know the people that work at GReddy

 

you know ppl everywhere.....you're like a networking Master.

You gotta start doing some IT for one of these companies and then get into management!

 

haha! that is actually part of my life plans

i'm doing IT right now...good pay...just dont like the place

i'm trying to hold out to get something with either Scion or Toyota first...then i'll look at other companies. but yea my goal is to do IT for some car company

...import car specifically. i was lookin into ProMedia...but they do hot rods n classics...not my thing

 

i aint some magic guesser haha i saw u did IT on FB

usually before I address somebody I do a lil research to make it more personal such as go to their main SL page and get their name. Also it may save some time asking the questions that are already easily available... Im sick of ppl referring to me as "Hey 202"
The only reason my sl name is Scion202 is cuz 202 is the black color code. at the time i made this account i only did it to ask questions so picked something i wouldnt forget. I had no idea i was gonna mod this thing/what it actually is to mod a car

 

i have a stalker

just send a friend request so it isn't so weird haha

 

Hey guys I emailed them last night about a group buy. Hopefully I'll have some more info tonight.

 

thats what happens when your such a car show **** and put up pics of it hahaha

 

I must have been an import model in my past life

 

LOL, and Yuri called Bijan "creepy" for checking out Ralphs car in person...

Edit: If only you guys knew the wealth of information you get about a user when being a moderator...

 

see, this is what kills me....how do they know what people are or aren't willing to pay? And how do they know what the demand is when they don't ask? I agree that a lot of owners won't pay for boost, but a high dollar item requires less purchases to be profitable, (ex. PTuning group buy needed 5 or so people to go to production.) An especially motivating factor should be the lack of competition....right now, Descendent is the only player. PTuning will be second in the market and will sweep up all the customers that were holding out simply for another choice. Greddy did the r&d...they could have filled the only competitor role that PTuning will now step into, and they will lose many of those customers that were sitting on the fence. There has always been a market for better products at a higher price, and there are definitely tc2 owners that have the means to pay&play. Why don't they post in every tc forum asking for interested parties in order to bring the kit to production, then if the response isn't there, they can scrap it and claim a lack of interest. If they put out an estimated price, kit performance numbers, and info from their research...than ask who might be interested, they just might be surprised to learn there is enough of a market to produce.

sorry--rant...really want Greddy kit hit the market

 

^^
how do they know? focus groups and experience
they did the r&d...yes because they put it on their GReddy race car tC2
...if they did the r&d why not continue it? many companies do r&d on a lot of things...but after its done, part of the research is how much does it cost to make and will be cost effective to make more/sell on the market...many times the answer is no
will they lose customers? no, because GReddy/TRUST is into A LOT of other markets...they could care less about getting the tC2 owners when they can jump into any other larger market. they arent loosing anything, they are just not gaining a small group
"pay to play owners"...there are some, but not enough to justify costs of producing more
gauge interest...they did this and currently are with the tC1 turbo kit....no takers. and yes yes..tC2 owners are different than tC1 owners, but in any business plan...its smart to take into account historic data and historic data for tC2 owners is (for now) tC1 owners

....it is all up to GReddy on what they will do with this kit. in my personal opinion, i doubt it makes it out of r&D...but hey, prove me wrong. if there is some way that enough people can convince then they will do it. i just dont know how that could happen (emails and forum posts arent enough...money talks)...FWIW, i held it down for tC2 owners with GReddy and they know there is interest from tC2 xB2 and FRS...everything else they are pretty much going to kill as far as Scion. with that said...i didn't BS them, i told them that there are a lot of moders and a lot of them looking anywhere and everywhere for parts, especially since the tC2 scene is still limited in aftermarket stuff so its a good market to jump into (esp since the tC2 has more performance than any other scion other than the FRS)...BUT i told them straight up, most scion owners in general will always just go for the cheapest stuff...

face it, if you have the $$....you wouldn't have gone with the low budget/pure pricing scion tC2

 

You're probably right about the tc2 Greddy kit I get that it might not fit their business plans, and I'm sure they will survive. I was mainly referring to a missed opportunity not loss of current business. I would question that there were no takers on the tc1 kit...go to youtube, you can find plenty of greddy kits on tc's. I think the larger frustration is that for alot of parts (esp. coils, turbo, camber kits) there is 1 or no options. All these companies that manufacture parts for previous gens always say the same thing, "well...ummm....we just don't see the interest to warrant it." That's bogus.....some everyday guy can mention he's making RUCAs and get double digits of buyers in one day. K-SPort is going to dominate the forums when they release a good, affordable c/o simply because their isn't very much competition. There is plenty of interest in some key areas, and no denying that the tc has been one of the top platforms for aftermarket manufacturers in the last decade.

 

I think the companies are looking long term into the future.....with tc1 there was no competition within the same brand. With TC2 however, FR-S is right around the corner which will inevitably drop tc2 sales

 

It's not that we are not paying attention but rather closely monitoring the market. There are a lot of people who say they "want to see" a GReddy kit but that doesn't always mean they are going to purchase a kit. We recognize that as an "interest". We understand consumers compare and contrast "kit A" with GReddy Kit and will need further information from us to do so however we feel we are not ready to release full information yet. The content will be contingent on pricing.

We also need to forecast how many kits we will sell the first year, the second, the third, etc and plan the life span of the product so they can be produced accordingly. Sales history of past products will have an influence when making a forecast, example: tC1 turbo kit. It's no secret that for a large manufacture to be cost effective, products are manufactured in large lots. A demand for a group buy of 5 is simply not going to cut it for the amount of time spent prototyping and developing. We aren't throwing group buy out of the picture as something can always be worked out.

We're doing our best to find the right balance between everything so we can cater to your needs. With all this said, we hope you can understand there are many factors to consider before any kit is released.
-Brian

 

Thanks for the response, insightful, honest, and straight from the manufacturer. Good to see that you guys are watching....don't mind my frustration, and big ups for actually addressing the points...that seems to be rare these days.