Notices
Scion tC 2G Owners Lounge
2011-____ [ANT20]

Heel and Toe

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-26-2013, 04:27 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Newman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 678
Default Heel and Toe

Do people do this in these cars while downshifting into turns? or when going on off ramps on highway?
seems a bit difficult with the gas pedal sitting so low compared to brakes, but just wanted to know if people do it and if it is possible to do it easily in this car.

Last edited by Newman; 11-27-2013 at 12:14 AM.
Newman is offline  
Old 11-27-2013, 02:41 AM
  #2  
Member
SL Member
 
CornerHugger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 50
Default

No, it's not easy to heel-toe in the tC2. Of course, it is possible to heel-toe in the tC2 but because of how the pedals are laid out, it's unlikely that more than only a handful of tC2 drivers actually use the heel-toe technique. Modifying the pedals so they're even with each other would make it easier. You also have to remember that heel-toe downshifts are used by race car drivers in performance driving. The tC2 isn't exactly a performance car, as is shown with how toyota laid out the pedals. It wasn't designed or meant for heel-toe downshifts.
CornerHugger is offline  
Old 11-27-2013, 02:49 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Newman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 678
Default

its just that i have trouble braking and downshifting and would like to do it simultaneously. but i see, then a performance car like an STI would have a more friendly pedal position for this right?

I guess I'll just stick to my regular downshifts in daily driving.
Thank you for confirming! glad it's not just me being stupid as always hah.
Newman is offline  
Old 11-27-2013, 03:02 AM
  #4  
Member
SL Member
 
CornerHugger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 50
Default

I can't speak for the STI's pedals but I would imagine they are a more performance-oriented setup than our tC's. You could always modify your accelerator to make it more natural to heel-toe if you really wanted to learn and practice it. All it would take is a block of some material like some light wood or plastic on top of your accelerator pedal to elevate it, then finish it out with some pedal covers, so it'd match the brake and clutch. No one would know better if you did it like that
CornerHugger is offline  
Old 11-27-2013, 03:04 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Newman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 678
Default

that's a cool mod for heel and toe. i do want to learn how to do it, but maybe i'll just wait until i get a performance car. not in a hurry haha. thank you for the awesome tip!
Newman is offline  
Old 11-27-2013, 10:59 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (2)
 
my06tc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,992
Default

i can heel and toe in my tc1....and yes the sti's and evos and all those other cars,the pedals have perfect pedal position,nice and even,and much easier to heel and toe with those cars
my06tc is offline  
Old 11-27-2013, 02:57 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Newman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 678
Default

did the tC1 have more even pedals than the tC2 you think? or the same?
Newman is offline  
Old 11-28-2013, 12:54 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (2)
 
my06tc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,992
Default

Originally Posted by Newman
did the tC1 have more even pedals than the tC2 you think? or the same?

honestly,idk..havent driven the tc2 yet.....the main issue with the tc1 was the accerlerator pedal,there was a dead spot in there,meanning,you got no throttle response until you push the pedal by the half way position,maybe not the far,but that was harder when you would do the heel and toe,but there has been a fix for that,i know on mine,i fix it,any lil pressure i get response,
my06tc is offline  
Old 11-30-2013, 12:38 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
durp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: The Colony/Waco, Texas
Posts: 192
Default

I heel toe just fine in my car, I do road course racing at Texas Motor Speedway and I don't have any issues. It just takes practice.
durp is offline  
Old 11-30-2013, 02:23 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Newman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 678
Default

so we can do it in this car w/o even pedal mods? do you have to push the heel down a bit more than expected to give that gas pedal a proper bump to rev match? because that's the only problem i noticed so far. haven't really tried it successfully yet though.
Newman is offline  
Old 11-30-2013, 03:12 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
durp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: The Colony/Waco, Texas
Posts: 192
Default

You can, when you are braking hard and downshifting, your foot will reach the gas pedal so you can rev match. It works well for me at least.
durp is offline  
Old 11-30-2013, 03:31 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Newman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 678
Default

ok so the key is to brake hard and get that toe part to press down more on the brake pedal, gotcha.
Newman is offline  
Old 12-06-2013, 01:27 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
criminaltc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: 608
Posts: 2,231
Default

Originally Posted by my06tc
the main issue with the tc1 was the accerlerator pedal,there was a dead spot in there,meanning,you got no throttle response until you push the pedal by the half way position
We should have never went away from throttle cables... electronic is a joke.
criminaltc is offline  
Old 12-06-2013, 02:03 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Newman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 678
Default

does the tC2 also use electronic throttle instead of throttle cable?
Newman is offline  
Old 12-06-2013, 02:48 PM
  #15  
Member
SL Member
 
blktc2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 72
Default

Yeah, it's drive by wire.
blktc2 is offline  
Old 12-06-2013, 05:02 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Newman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 678
Default

is that whats helping cause that annoying rev hang in lowest gears during shifting ?
Newman is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
sccarally
Regional - Lonestar
1
08-21-2015 02:58 AM
Subaru86
Scion FR-S Suspension & Handling
0
07-31-2015 04:00 AM
stuUNGAR
Scion tC 1G Owners Lounge
14
06-20-2006 01:35 AM
Typhoon
All Other Vehicles
29
05-29-2006 09:52 PM
miraclecreator
Autosports & Technique
56
03-27-2006 05:55 PM



Quick Reply: Heel and Toe



All times are GMT. The time now is 10:35 PM.