MPG survey for your Xa? Please give me some input. Thanks!
#27
Update: My last tank from Giant Eagle "Get Go" just got me 38.4 mpg,tht's maybe 2 % highway and the rest city/town.They give me 10 cents off per gallon for every $50 I spend(in store or station) and that includes beer and smokes so being the smoking alcoholic that I am,I get 40 -50 cents off pergallon a month(I do buy some food here and there too as well) plus another 3 cents off for swiping my card.
#28
Here's my take on "break-in" and gas mileage:
There is a direct relationship between breaking-in your new car and your fuel economy. When everything is said and done, and the experts have all spoken (and I'm no expert), there is really no right way or wrong way to break-in a new engine. The science of it tells us that there are hundreds of new parts moving against each other for the first time...parts made of dissimilar materials with different expansion rates, operating in extreme temperatures. Pistons and rings need to bed in, valves, springs, rocker arms, joints, gears and bearings, need to bounce, bang, slide and roll around a bit to find their new seating positions, and all metal parts, including fasteners, need to go through a bunch of heating and cooling cycles to stabilize their molecular structure.
How long does this break-in process take? It really depends on your particular driving style. And...it is not just the engine "breaking-in". The transmission has to break-in, the suspension has to break-in, the brakes have to break-in, heck...even the driver has to break-in. With today's auto electronics, as you become familiar with the operations of your new car, your car is learning about you! Driving our new car as a complete machine will help this whole break-in process along.
This brings us to gas mileage. Friction will always be higher with new moving components. Due to these higher friction levels, fuel economy will always suffer in a new car until it gets broken-in. Improving fuel economy is actually a good indicator that your car is becoming broken in. After about 1000 miles or so you will have reached a point where your gradually improving fuel economy will normalize. Now it is time to have fun!
There is a direct relationship between breaking-in your new car and your fuel economy. When everything is said and done, and the experts have all spoken (and I'm no expert), there is really no right way or wrong way to break-in a new engine. The science of it tells us that there are hundreds of new parts moving against each other for the first time...parts made of dissimilar materials with different expansion rates, operating in extreme temperatures. Pistons and rings need to bed in, valves, springs, rocker arms, joints, gears and bearings, need to bounce, bang, slide and roll around a bit to find their new seating positions, and all metal parts, including fasteners, need to go through a bunch of heating and cooling cycles to stabilize their molecular structure.
How long does this break-in process take? It really depends on your particular driving style. And...it is not just the engine "breaking-in". The transmission has to break-in, the suspension has to break-in, the brakes have to break-in, heck...even the driver has to break-in. With today's auto electronics, as you become familiar with the operations of your new car, your car is learning about you! Driving our new car as a complete machine will help this whole break-in process along.
This brings us to gas mileage. Friction will always be higher with new moving components. Due to these higher friction levels, fuel economy will always suffer in a new car until it gets broken-in. Improving fuel economy is actually a good indicator that your car is becoming broken in. After about 1000 miles or so you will have reached a point where your gradually improving fuel economy will normalize. Now it is time to have fun!
#29
breaking the car in should consist of not getting the revs too high and also not driving at one speed for long periods like you would on a road trip. after 1000 miles the engine will be broken in and then you can flog it if that's your thing.
my first tank was 29 mpg
i've been getting an average of about 32 mpg
my high was 35
my first tank was 29 mpg
i've been getting an average of about 32 mpg
my high was 35
#30
Here's my take on "break-in" and gas mileage:
There is a direct relationship between breaking-in your new car and your fuel economy....
There is a direct relationship between breaking-in your new car and your fuel economy....
Specificly regarding Toyota engines, the wear and tear is considered during the R&D process. So basically the longer you use it (normally) the better mpg you get as the parts settle (break- in) I am not saying better performance or power, since rings and cilinders will have wear, specially the cilinders and the valves and seats. so with time (in Toyota that means years and years) the engine will loose performance or power but will give good MPG
To minimize the wear and retain the performance, Air filter cleaning and oil changes are very important.
Good luck, osaquini schsitsure quimas
#33
I am glad to see a topic covering the mpg of the Xa. I can get a real feel what is expected out of the Xa from other owners in the same region that I am in.
Are you satisfied with what you are getting for fuel economy with your Xa?
Are you satisfied with what you are getting for fuel economy with your Xa?
#36
BTW, color me weird, but here's an observation I noticed on my little egg:
If I fill up at a gas station, and my driver's side is lower than the passenger side, I fill up with less gas (about .5 gal). If I fill up with the driver's side higher than the passenger side, I can get a bit more gas into my tank. This can skew my MPG factor 1-2 MPG. (e.g. 300/10=30 300/9.5=31.5
Typically, I now try to fill up with the driver side higher.
If I fill up at a gas station, and my driver's side is lower than the passenger side, I fill up with less gas (about .5 gal). If I fill up with the driver's side higher than the passenger side, I can get a bit more gas into my tank. This can skew my MPG factor 1-2 MPG. (e.g. 300/10=30 300/9.5=31.5
Typically, I now try to fill up with the driver side higher.
#38
Hi XA buddies, I took a trip to the beach this weekend to visit my family and checked my MPG when I returned home. I drove 300 miles, had the A/C on, and set the cruise control on 59MPH. I averaged 37.5 MPG on my trip. I also had luggage and a big cooler full of seafood and ice in the car. I was very pleased with the MPG and also finding gas prices have dropped a bit to 2.67 a gallon in eastern N.C. Well, untill later, the adventure continues ...
#40
I get about 35, fill up twice a month. I drive the xA pretty conservatively.
My last ride was a supercharged Grand Prix with completely open intake, headers that lead to 3" side exhaust with no mufflers or cats, high flow injectors, etc. Crap fuel economy, but it was a fast ride -- Especially off the start. The xA is slow; I prefer not to drive it hard so that I'm not reminded of that fact. Gone are the days of dusting "performance" cars and tuners in my midrange coupe. I will admit that I miss the "gurgle gurgle" in the mornings. That car sounded wicked... Like a speed boat idling out of the dock.
My last ride was a supercharged Grand Prix with completely open intake, headers that lead to 3" side exhaust with no mufflers or cats, high flow injectors, etc. Crap fuel economy, but it was a fast ride -- Especially off the start. The xA is slow; I prefer not to drive it hard so that I'm not reminded of that fact. Gone are the days of dusting "performance" cars and tuners in my midrange coupe. I will admit that I miss the "gurgle gurgle" in the mornings. That car sounded wicked... Like a speed boat idling out of the dock.