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Old 04-19-2005 | 07:49 AM
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nice videos. good quality on the 2nd one. did you get launching and shifting in the rain down?
Old 04-19-2005 | 07:58 AM
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See for yourselves:

Click here to watch how an Evo got beaten up by a K-motor swapped Civic

Pretty disturbing, huh?
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Originally Posted by shinkuu
nice videos. good quality on the 2nd one. did you get launching and shifting in the rain down?
>> Sorry i'm just a newbie in the import world .. i didn't get your question.. :-(
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Um...maybe it's just me, but I didn't see an evo in that video anywhere
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i didn't get your question..
He was asking if you spun the tires in the rain or if you were able to control the car enough to not get wheel spin
Old 04-19-2005 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sprockett
Um...maybe it's just me, but I didn't see an evo in that video anywhere
>> Sprockett, try clicking the link again or just try this (same thing):

Click here to watch how an Evo got beaten up by a K-motor swapped Civic

Old 04-19-2005 | 08:18 AM
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For the record, the first one didn't have an Evo ;)

You know what the Civic had done to the K20? That's very impressive

And don't get me wrong, I totally respect Hondas...like I said, I turbocharged my Integra and had 250whp on the stock bottom end. That Civic is pretty fast, but I thought we were talking about a race from a stop, not a highway roll. From a stop the Evo would have won pretty badly I think. Anyway, good vid!
Old 04-19-2005 | 08:24 AM
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I'm not sure with a race from a stop.. >> you know that Civic is freakin' fast? WEIGHT REDUCTION.. as what i've said, they stripped it down - stripping to any possiblity to get maximum lesser weight.. Nothing done with with it, naturally aspirated..
Old 04-19-2005 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by shinkuu
nice videos. good quality on the 2nd one. did you get launching and shifting in the rain down?
The first video it spins, this is my first time, not thinking the road is wet.. second run, tried avoid not to do that, but i forgot to look on the rpm gauge and hitting the redline.. i'm really nervous doin this races that's why..
Old 04-19-2005 | 10:05 AM
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that was pretty cool , i'll post my newb comment on this, ofcouse i never race anyone before, not in an xA anyways. but the question just boggs me, why are we drag racing in a 1.5L 108HP engine? isn't drag racing is all about speed on a strait away? i would though a bigger engine like the tC is a better fit something with a bit more potential for power, it really doesn't matter what we do, 1.5L can only do so much.... But yeah, the oponent is a civic, it's a more balance match up. I would never thought the xA is a drag racing car mine can't barely get up to 100 on the freeway, but i have an auto, so that might be the difference maker.
Old 04-19-2005 | 11:07 AM
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I raced an EG sedan from a light one time. He kept revving at me so I figured I would try him out. He was playing music really loud so I think he had a big sub in the back and he was doing the gangster lean so his car was possibly an automatic and I beat him by about 2 car lengths by the time he gave up. So while xAs are slow they aren't any slower than the rest of the ____box cars out there.
Old 04-19-2005 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by warlock110
why are we drag racing in a 1.5L 108HP engine? isn't drag racing is all about speed on a strait away? i would though a bigger engine like the tC is a better fit something with a bit more potential for power, it really doesn't matter what we do, 1.5L can only do so much....
Drag isn't entirely dependant on high HP numbers or engine size. The torque curve and the curb weight also plays a huge difference on the overall performance in the 1/4 mile.

A bigger engine doesn't necessarily mean better performance.
Old 04-19-2005 | 04:52 PM
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LOL...I don't get it either, but rest assured that there are slower cars out there. I was at the track yesterday and a Mazda MX-3 ran a 20.4 against a riced out (well, they were both pretty bad) Focus that ran a 19.6
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Originally Posted by M-Flo
Originally Posted by warlock110
why are we drag racing in a 1.5L 108HP engine? isn't drag racing is all about speed on a strait away? i would though a bigger engine like the tC is a better fit something with a bit more potential for power, it really doesn't matter what we do, 1.5L can only do so much....
Drag isn't entirely dependant on high HP numbers or engine size. The torque curve and the curb weight also plays a huge difference on the overall performance in the 1/4 mile.

A bigger engine doesn't necessarily mean better performance.
i don't believe in this, i have driven bigger engine car, the smaller engine just doesn't have the power as far as accelerating in a short amount of time, this is why most kids with civic who dragrace decides to swap engine or choose the SI, and even so, cars like the WRX is still a class above them. They are just monster, if we're talking about class wise, the xA is still underpower buy alot of cars in the same range being that it has the smallest engine compare to civic or focus. don't get me wrong, it's an exelent car for normal daily driving (i even have doubt in this deparment when my engine whines at 80 mph with O/D on). Deffinitely not drag racing material.
Old 04-19-2005 | 11:26 PM
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the reason i asked about the rain is the driver will determine the race in these conditions if the cars are evenly matched (xa vs civic) anyways, i think the race coulda been won by the xA
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