Notices
Scion xA Owners Lounge
2004-2006.5 [NCP61]

what to do first....power or suspension

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-06-2012 | 05:29 PM
  #21  
Roller_Toaster's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,639
Default

SS brake lines, sway bars and Ksports.
Old 06-06-2012 | 05:36 PM
  #22  
taman86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 135
From: SE AZ
Default

Hotchkis bars are deffinately in the mix for the future. For springs, well I am trying to find a good spring for the best price possible. I turned away from the trd's cuz they don't give a low enough drop that I am looking for, next in line as far as price goes are the tein s techs. But I have been reading that they give a very rough ride, if anyone can post up their experiences with these that would be appreciated. Also I am going to swap my front control arm bushings with energysuspension pieces to try and elimenate a knock I have while going over slight bumps. Thought it was the motor mounts but it wasn't. Havnt really had too much thought into brakes just yet, will get there eventually.
Old 06-08-2012 | 05:06 AM
  #23  
eignub's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 403
From: Tucson, AZ
Default

ive heard good things about the teins, but dont have any exp with them myself. but i have been running ksport springs and love them
Old 06-10-2012 | 03:42 AM
  #24  
taman86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 135
From: SE AZ
Default

Well, I've been selling some parts I've had laying around and turning it around and buying parts with it for the xa and something else just came through, so getting ready to buy some tein s.techs to go along with the trd struts.
Old 06-10-2012 | 09:37 PM
  #25  
hmc2261CT's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 179
From: Rochester, NY
Default

About the exhaust, it is loud on the highway. After a awhile it will either be something that will annoy you or you will just tune it out. For me I just tune it out, but it took a while to be able to tune it out.
And cai sounds nice, Did you end up picking up a used one or was it new? Im looking for one as well, but im concerned about gulping up some water, where I am in college, it rains and snows alot
Old 06-11-2012 | 04:13 AM
  #26  
taman86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 135
From: SE AZ
Default

Tein's odered :D. I think I can deal with the exhaust. I got the k&n typhoon on ebay new for 160ish shipped. Best price by far. When installed it sits down behind the driver side foglight, so it shouldn't get too wet behind there. Next time you drive in wet conditions just crawl under the car and look behind the bumper where the fog light it is and see if its soaked in there and that should give you an idea how wet it will get. Also the filter comes with an outer water repellant net thing. Its still breathes really well but it repelles water, not water proof lol. It looks like this persay:

......__
<--/

Where the bottom arrow is the filter, and the top mounts to the throttle body, so I would worry too much about water being sucked into the engine.
Old 06-12-2012 | 01:42 AM
  #27  
taman86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 135
From: SE AZ
Default

Are there any things that should be replaced while I'm going to be into the suspension? I am considering replacing the control arm bushings with poly pieces.
Old 06-12-2012 | 07:01 PM
  #28  
taman86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 135
From: SE AZ
Default

Ordered poly control arm bushings and front poly sway bar bushings to get me by until the fall. Then sway bars, wheels and tires, brakes, and exhaust will be done
Old 06-13-2012 | 05:43 PM
  #29  
Roller_Toaster's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,639
Default

If hotchkis makes the TVS 1 kit for your car (springs and sways) I highly recommend it.
Old 06-13-2012 | 05:44 PM
  #30  
Roller_Toaster's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,639
Default

Originally Posted by hmc2261CT
About the exhaust, it is loud on the highway. After a awhile it will either be something that will annoy you or you will just tune it out. For me I just tune it out, but it took a while to be able to tune it out.
And cai sounds nice, Did you end up picking up a used one or was it new? Im looking for one as well, but im concerned about gulping up some water, where I am in college, it rains and snows alot
pick up an aem bypass filter. $50 is great insurance, as well as being able to have the performance benefit of a CAI.
Old 06-13-2012 | 06:25 PM
  #31  
CrossoverAuto's Avatar
Former Sponsor
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 528
From: Dallas/Plano, TX
Default

Hey Taman86, We offer plenty of parts for your Scion!
PM for pricing and more!
Old 06-14-2012 | 02:47 AM
  #32  
eignub's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 403
From: Tucson, AZ
Default

Originally Posted by CrossoverAuto
Hey Taman86, We offer plenty of parts for your Scion!
PM for pricing and more!
Your website doesnt even list the scion xa.
Old 06-14-2012 | 02:55 AM
  #33  
taman86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 135
From: SE AZ
Default

Just wow
Old 06-15-2012 | 04:23 AM
  #34  
simplyred's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 266
From: Midwest
Default

my 2 cents....

hey man, if you are looking for power there are only a few things that add power. the CAI will add about 4hp. the exhaust will probably remove that hp or add a wopping zero hp, but adds noise. the strup or whatever header you can find will give you the most gains of any of the i/h/e options. a blitz sc will give you about 25 - 30hp. and a good quality custom turbo setup will vary between 40 & 60 hp. both the last two options are a couple to several thousand dollar items.

best choices for power adders for our cars are headers and intake. the exhaust is a waste of money, unless you like noise or get boosted.

If I could do it over, I would go for intake & header first (power & mileage). then go for stance. if you want to elaborate more and go for body kit and sick wheels then that is up to your tastes. the best exhaust option would be to keep it stock and find a muffler shop or welder that can remove your stock 1in tip and put something a slight bit larger (about 2 in like the Matrix has) just for show that you are not exactly riding stock anymore.

oh and when you get a chance, get the Uber grounding kit. just search for it and see what I'm talking about.

there are no real performance chips out there, so dont get sucked in to that lie. this motor is orginally from an echo and passed on to a yaris, there is no power there without boosting the motor.
Old 06-15-2012 | 06:50 PM
  #35  
taman86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 135
From: SE AZ
Default

Ya I have realized that. I like my CAI, but I am going to go the suspension route until fall. After that time ill do a full exhaust, well header and axle back. I don't want to do a FI setup being that this engine is not meant to be boosted and I want it to stay with us for as long as possible. Boosting an engine that is not meant for it will destroy it fairly quickly even under moderate boost, but then why spend a large chunck on something you can barely feel just to save some life in your engine. I'm not looking to make this car a hot rod and run with STI's, just want it to look good and sound good with a lil more go.

That sucks to hear that there are no off shelf tuning options, that the key to power potential.

Thanks for your insight
Old 06-15-2012 | 09:12 PM
  #36  
CrossoverAuto's Avatar
Former Sponsor
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 528
From: Dallas/Plano, TX
Default

Originally Posted by eignub
Your website doesnt even list the scion xa.
We're in the process of adding the parts which should be up by the weekend. In the mean time, if you already had something specific you were interested in, I will be happy to quote you.
Old 06-25-2012 | 10:26 PM
  #37  
hmc2261CT's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 179
From: Rochester, NY
Default

pick up an aem bypass filter. $50 is great insurance, as well as being able to have the performance benefit of a CAI.
Yeah I was thinking about something like that, but I just bought coilovers and just got back from spain so im trying to be conservative with my money.

And Taman could you post a pic of the CAI, Id like to see how it looks with your set up
Old 08-15-2012 | 06:05 AM
  #38  
taman86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 135
From: SE AZ
Default

hey everyone, its been a minute but here are some updates. just bought poly rear trailing arm bushing to go with the front poly control arm bushing and front poly sway bar bushings. I will be doing those very shortly. also just purchased Speed Daddy header off ebay for something like 70 shipped. purchased that brand before for another car with success so figured why not. i am getting ready to start my next semester of college as a full time auto's student so i will have access to shop lifts and tools to do all this work which will be awesome. also finished off the suspension purchase's so far with new strut mounts and rear shock mounts. i have a lot to do but can't wait to do it.

hmc-sorry i never got around to posting up a pick of my CAI, if you are still interested i would be happy to do it.
Old 08-16-2012 | 11:47 PM
  #39  
RiversideS13's Avatar
Junior Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 20
From: Riverside
Default

Suspension, shocks and springs. The Oem is crappy and unsafe. You will see a significant improvement of ride. For same amount of money, you probably not feel much power gain from the silly 1.5L
Old 08-17-2012 | 02:23 AM
  #40  
taman86's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 135
From: SE AZ
Default

Ya already have every together what you're saying minus sway bars.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Sgtfluffy16
Regional - Northeast
3
07-28-2021 10:32 PM
SloTC1
PPC: Engine / Drivetrain
14
08-16-2018 02:45 PM
prescottn
Scion iM Discussion Lounge
0
09-22-2015 01:30 PM
Subaru86
Scion FR-S Owner's Lounge
0
09-14-2015 12:51 PM
prescottn
Scion iM Discussion Lounge
1
09-13-2015 09:04 PM



Quick Reply: what to do first....power or suspension



All times are GMT. The time now is 11:33 AM.