1ZZ-FE swap
#21
heres the thing,
the 1zz and 2zz are the SAME motor, its simply a different head assembly. Personally i prefer the 1zz any day of the weak due to less of a chance of valve float
..as far as would it fit, yes if the 1zz fit (you may have hood clearance issues though as i believe the 2zz may be an inch or so taller due to different head/ valve cover design.
Thanks for the intrest im on my way out the door right now to go look at a corolla
the 1zz and 2zz are the SAME motor, its simply a different head assembly. Personally i prefer the 1zz any day of the weak due to less of a chance of valve float
..as far as would it fit, yes if the 1zz fit (you may have hood clearance issues though as i believe the 2zz may be an inch or so taller due to different head/ valve cover design.
Thanks for the intrest im on my way out the door right now to go look at a corolla
#24
well heres the deal so far,
it's kinda been a day of disapointment. Two of the three salvage yards i went to claimed that they had 05+ corollas (yet they forgot to mention none of them had motors).
The closest i came was an 02 with documentation of 43k miles for 300$, but not good enough for me i will continue to hunt. (plus the 02 had the cast manifold vs the newer plastic style)
...I also got the quote on the subframe modifications necisary and weve got some very good ideas of how were going to make this work
it's kinda been a day of disapointment. Two of the three salvage yards i went to claimed that they had 05+ corollas (yet they forgot to mention none of them had motors).
The closest i came was an 02 with documentation of 43k miles for 300$, but not good enough for me i will continue to hunt. (plus the 02 had the cast manifold vs the newer plastic style)
...I also got the quote on the subframe modifications necisary and weve got some very good ideas of how were going to make this work
#25
http://www.car-part.com is your friend. I did a search for an '05 Corolla 1ZZFE in the Northeast.
For $600 you can get a 2005 motor with less than 24,000. For $750 you can get a 12,000 mile 2005 motor. Just to give you an idea.
I am sure if you keep searching you will find exactly what you need.
For $600 you can get a 2005 motor with less than 24,000. For $750 you can get a 12,000 mile 2005 motor. Just to give you an idea.
I am sure if you keep searching you will find exactly what you need.
#26
thanks for the great site!
I managed to find quite a few good candidates and i will be going to check out some of these motors. My biggest concern is that some of these yards claim "12k-25k miles," yet for whatever reason they cant provide me with paperwork or at least leav the motor in the car until i get there to see for myself
i will not setle until i have an 05 motor with paperwork to back the mileage....but i know i will get one
...now transmission on the other hand. I believe i am going to be using the levin 6spd with a TRD LSD. I have not completely decided yet and i still am researching the compatibility of this trans/ motor comb.
p.s. has anyone completed a sucessful 1zz/2zz swap into an xa/xb that has proof? Just curious
I managed to find quite a few good candidates and i will be going to check out some of these motors. My biggest concern is that some of these yards claim "12k-25k miles," yet for whatever reason they cant provide me with paperwork or at least leav the motor in the car until i get there to see for myself
i will not setle until i have an 05 motor with paperwork to back the mileage....but i know i will get one
...now transmission on the other hand. I believe i am going to be using the levin 6spd with a TRD LSD. I have not completely decided yet and i still am researching the compatibility of this trans/ motor comb.
p.s. has anyone completed a sucessful 1zz/2zz swap into an xa/xb that has proof? Just curious
#27
LKQ recycled auto parts is a GREAT company to deal with they provide documentation on the motors and offer an extended warranty at a very small cost heres the link: http://www.lkqcorp.com/
#29
Originally Posted by Sciontuner
now another question i have, why is the 2zz-ge so much harder? isnt it the same size motor with pretty close to the same displacement?
#30
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who cares about the hood you don't need a hood ..... and if you have the time and money to do this swap you'll have the time and money to make/modify the hood to fit
#32
i posted this topic on another forum, but i seem to get a lot of b/s responses.
does anyone know if i can use the levin trans with the 1zz block? I thought i heard one was 6 bolt and one was 8 bolt but i could be wrong. I want to use this jdm trans with the trd lsd, but these are all determining factors in who i aquire the motor from. Thanks
does anyone know if i can use the levin trans with the 1zz block? I thought i heard one was 6 bolt and one was 8 bolt but i could be wrong. I want to use this jdm trans with the trd lsd, but these are all determining factors in who i aquire the motor from. Thanks
#34
Actually Toyota hasn't put the 1ZZ-FE into a similar chassis. They put the "all new 2ZR-FE in the Yaris TS. I am not sure what, if any architecture or dimensions are shared between the two models. Quite honestly though, if I had my choice between dropping in one or the other, I would probably lean toward the 2ZR-FE. You get a little bit more horsepower and improved efficiency. Not to mention getting dual VVT-i. Not just VVT-i on the exhaust cam.
I really think that the 2ZR-FE might just be the genie in the bottle. Once someone with an xB gets a hold of one, we could really be on to some really exciting options. Especially if Toyota decides to release a supercharger for the motor.
I really think that the 2ZR-FE might just be the genie in the bottle. Once someone with an xB gets a hold of one, we could really be on to some really exciting options. Especially if Toyota decides to release a supercharger for the motor.
#37
I have a question. I have seen a couple people make statements regarding more power and better gasmileage. what makes people think a motor with more power is going ot improve thier gasmileage in theie xa/b? I am a very happy owner of an xB adn get in the ball park of 30mpg even with my 215/45 17s. i was under the impression that toyota put a 103hp motor in the car to provide economical driving. If they couldhave put a 145hp motor in the car and get BETTER gasmileage dont you think they would have? Just asking. Mabe you guys know something i dont.
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Originally Posted by Random_2002
I have a question. I have seen a couple people make statements regarding more power and better gasmileage. what makes people think a motor with more power is going ot improve thier gasmileage in theie xa/b? I am a very happy owner of an xB adn get in the ball park of 30mpg even with my 215/45 17s. i was under the impression that toyota put a 103hp motor in the car to provide economical driving. If they couldhave put a 145hp motor in the car and get BETTER gasmileage dont you think they would have? Just asking. Mabe you guys know something i dont.
**After looking at my window sticker, the xA only boasts 37.
#39
Just take a look here Random...
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm
Just as an example I compared an '06 auto xB with an '06 auto Corolla. The xB was rated at 31, the Corolla at 33. Average estimates from viewers of the site rated at 29.4 and 32.4 respectively.
Now imagine that same more powerful, more fuel efficient engine in a smaller, lighter car. Fuel economy gain could be huge. Not only because of the already higher efficiency, but also less need for fuel due to less load on the motor. It really is a no brainer if you look at it that way.
Of course Toyota has a whole lot more to consider. Not the least of which is the bottom line. (The all mighty dollar.) I am sure it was exponentially more economical to use the 1NZ-FE as opposed to the 1ZZ-FE.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm
Just as an example I compared an '06 auto xB with an '06 auto Corolla. The xB was rated at 31, the Corolla at 33. Average estimates from viewers of the site rated at 29.4 and 32.4 respectively.
Now imagine that same more powerful, more fuel efficient engine in a smaller, lighter car. Fuel economy gain could be huge. Not only because of the already higher efficiency, but also less need for fuel due to less load on the motor. It really is a no brainer if you look at it that way.
Of course Toyota has a whole lot more to consider. Not the least of which is the bottom line. (The all mighty dollar.) I am sure it was exponentially more economical to use the 1NZ-FE as opposed to the 1ZZ-FE.
#40
Originally Posted by bfurches
heres the thing,
the 1zz and 2zz are the SAME motor, its simply a different head assembly. Personally i prefer the 1zz any day of the weak due to less of a chance of valve float
..as far as would it fit, yes if the 1zz fit (you may have hood clearance issues though as i believe the 2zz may be an inch or so taller due to different head/ valve cover design.
Thanks for the intrest im on my way out the door right now to go look at a corolla
the 1zz and 2zz are the SAME motor, its simply a different head assembly. Personally i prefer the 1zz any day of the weak due to less of a chance of valve float
..as far as would it fit, yes if the 1zz fit (you may have hood clearance issues though as i believe the 2zz may be an inch or so taller due to different head/ valve cover design.
Thanks for the intrest im on my way out the door right now to go look at a corolla
While I am interested to see your results, I just wanted to inform you of something. The 2ZZ has a shorter stroke than the 1zz to accomodate the peaky nature of this motor. The block is different, the pistons are different, the crancks are different, the heads, cam, valvetrain, etc....... you get the piont.
With the exceptions of modifying the mounts and wire harness, it fits under the hood quite nicely.