Just get the gauge with the sensor. That;s the kit.

 

AEM is still working on it.
http://forum.aempower.com/forum/inde...&topic=16621.0

 

Looks good, I'd love to get that as an R&D gift! but that would be unfair, I already got the header for the '06 xA.

 

Bringing this back once again with some excellent new theories.
I just spent the past two hours discussing my options for having new tables designed and written to our processors for fuel delivery at any given throttle point, and he brought up an excellent point.

When the CEL comes on, the car automatically sets a "barebones" table with some super safe parameters to avoid any damage to the vehicle. This table remains unchanged as the values are "play it safe" values and the ecu does not want to alter the maps further. This is exactly why i believe TRDXA06 was able to keep his settings with his apex;'i unit.

Essentially it all makes sense. I believe what we as scion owners are overlooking the parameters the ecu sees. The ecu simply does what it has been told to do from day one; read parameters and adjust accordingly. The problem is we as tuners don't know what these predetermined parameters are! Therefore, we are most likely going above what is seen as exceptable by the ecu, or not acknowledging another sensor which could be easily overlooked.

It all makes sense now the more i think about it. The car isnt super "smart." It doese'nt know that im trying to squeeze power out of it, it simply sees me as stepping out of line. BUT, if it goes into safe-mode (CEL status) then its fair game to do whatever i please. This very well may be the answer to our cars fuel delivery systems, and it sure would be a great alternative to standalone

 

Not to knock your new knowledge, but what you have just stated has already been said by others on Scionlife in the past. It isn't really anything new. The problem is, most people aren't willing to drive around all of the time with a CEL glaring in their peripheral vision.

 

Exactly, I'm a member of the SSSM (Super Secret Scion Modders) I have ppl in my car that would freak out if my CEL was on all the time, and with the guage in the middle I can't really hide it.

 

tape over the cel's led

 

Also if there ever is a problem I'd like to know...and I don't want a pant load of guages in my car, wher you can see them all the time, I want stealthy, like a ninja!

 

ok...well lets be realistic. For one, if you are truley performance oriented, you are going to need some type of gauges wether it be tradition, or some type of scan tool at all time. Running a boosted car and relying simply on a CEL for any issues is idiotic to say the least. There are so many more prevenitive actions which can be taken when the knowledge you need is right in front of you, and im not referring to a blue led when the car is cold, and a red one when its hot, this does nothing.

...as for other members posting this general idea, i have yet to see anyone say so and i have read quite a bit on this car. Sure, TRDXA06 claims he was able to get the car to retain his tuning in the CEL mode, but WHY? He had no clue. Im trying to provide information with a logical backing to it. take it how you please.

 

Here u go, to keep all of you from problems and discussions. Here is the key for u all to be able to tune, mildly cheap and in a controlled enviroment.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...r=asc&&start=0