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Old 09-27-2005 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by aychse7en
all of you guys saying turbos are not reliable have no idea what you are talking about. there are plenty of cars on the market that come with turbos from the factory. not to mention the thousands of aircraft and motorcycles and other vehicles using turbos. if reliability was a factor, no one would be using them in mission critical applications like aircraft. plus, you can't deny the fact that toyota has released a version of the bB with a turbo installed from the factory. also, turbos generally do not require any more or less maintenance than a S/C. as a general observation, engine internals are less reliable than turbos. how often do you hear of people blowing up their turbos compared to how often you hear about people blowing up their engine?
either way you go, your ECU should be tuned with a new fuel map to match the amount of boost you are running. and as long as you keep boost under control, you sould have a decent reliable increase in power either way. should be able to reach the 100hp / litre without much problem.
a lot of people complain about turbo lag when comparing turbo to S/C, but thats only a downside oh large turbos. small turbos (K03s for instance) spool up well under 3k RPM, provide plenty of TQ down low, and are good for around 200hp before they run out of steam.
Well said...the lag that i experience on the T20 is extremely minimal, and very unoticable...turbo is the way to go IMO if you wanna experience some real nice power.
Old 09-27-2005 | 03:12 AM
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a turbo is just as reliable as a supercharger. it is easier to tune a turbo setup with the aid of a boost controller unlike a supercharger where you have to mess with pulleys. a supercharger is belt driven where a turbo is exhaust driven. ive used to own a turbo crx running 8lbs of boost on a t3super60. ive also driven my friends jrsc civic that ran 10lbs of boost. based on my experience a turbo is the way to go. the power is better, it is as relaible as a supercharger...either way just make sure you tune your setup.
Old 09-27-2005 | 03:51 AM
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I'm currently putting together a list of parts to turbocharge my '05 xA. I'm starting off with a turbo-kits.com kit WITHOUT fuel management. Instead of adding 2 injectors, or trying to push more fuel through the stock ones, I'll replace all of them with slightly larger units.

I guess this goes back to a few of the replies I read: "turbo is both safe and efficient if setup / tuned properly". It's relatively easy to slap one on (compared to a supercharger, which at least has to be aligned correctly not to snap the belts), but making sure that it's running the way it's supposed to is a different story.
Old 09-27-2005 | 04:05 AM
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if wonder if the same afc hack will work on a scion like they do with hondas
Old 09-27-2005 | 05:03 AM
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i have an 05 xb and i have a greedy turbo kit and greedy intercooler..... it has no problem spooling the small turbo to 5 psi..... there is another xb with a supercharger in town and mine is faster for sure....... i will add pictures and what not soon.
Old 09-27-2005 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PSIKOTICxB
if wonder if the same afc hack will work on a scion like they do with hondas
definitely not
The thing about using bigger injectors and what not is that eventually the long term fuel trim kicks in and will readjust the fuel settings...you gotta pull your EFI fuses once every few days.
I just sold my turbo xB, the guy gave me the check yesterday...it was a sad sad day for me....waitin on my tC though to boost the sh#t outta that
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