Which header/exhaust/intake should i go with?
03-20-2005, 06:40 PM
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Which header/exhaust/intake should i go with?
I been looking around and i would like to get some feedback to see what combo i should go with.
I looking to get headers, axle back, and CAI intake.
Need some help choosing dough.
I looking to get headers, axle back, and CAI intake.
Need some help choosing dough.
03-20-2005, 09:15 PM
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I/H/E
Ok, now for a real question:
>Does it make a difference? Is every aftermarket I/H/E combo basically going to give you the same increases where you want them? If so, aren't you pretty much left choosing based upon brand loyalty and/or looks?
Bring on the science.
>Does it make a difference? Is every aftermarket I/H/E combo basically going to give you the same increases where you want them? If so, aren't you pretty much left choosing based upon brand loyalty and/or looks?
Bring on the science.
03-20-2005, 09:24 PM
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No aftermarket IHE combo is going to give you a dramatic power increase, it's 10% performance, 90% placebo.
Don't believe me? Just look at dyno numbers.
I don't mean look at the companies estimates for each part and add them all together! That's not how it works people!
On an xb/xa you'd be LUCKY to get 10 more horsepower at high RPM from all of that. It's more for exhaust note and stroking the owners ego while he/she imagines their car is SOOO much faster than before. That is not the reality.
I'd suggest a CAI and leave it at that. Exhaust systems and headers do not usually deliver much power on engines this small. Look for hard numbers, don't lie to yourself and waste your money man.
A CAI will give you almost enough extra power to justify its price, if you can call $2 or 300 for 4-6 horsepower justified.
Oh, and short rams are crap. Look at a picture of one under the hood. The stock intake pulls COLD air from behind a nice low pressure area behind the bumper. Short rams pull boiling hot air from RIGHT above the f*cking engine block.
I'd be amazed if they increase power at all. They probably decrease it on a hot day. 
Don't believe me? Just look at dyno numbers.
I don't mean look at the companies estimates for each part and add them all together! That's not how it works people!
On an xb/xa you'd be LUCKY to get 10 more horsepower at high RPM from all of that. It's more for exhaust note and stroking the owners ego while he/she imagines their car is SOOO much faster than before. That is not the reality.
I'd suggest a CAI and leave it at that. Exhaust systems and headers do not usually deliver much power on engines this small. Look for hard numbers, don't lie to yourself and waste your money man.
A CAI will give you almost enough extra power to justify its price, if you can call $2 or 300 for 4-6 horsepower justified.
Oh, and short rams are crap. Look at a picture of one under the hood. The stock intake pulls COLD air from behind a nice low pressure area behind the bumper. Short rams pull boiling hot air from RIGHT above the f*cking engine block.
I'd be amazed if they increase power at all. They probably decrease it on a hot day.
03-20-2005, 09:47 PM
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stay away from weapon r anything...
their intake for the xB looks so half-assed it's not even funny.
Rion - have you seen the placement of the Injen "short ram?" It sits right in the fender...
their intake for the xB looks so half-assed it's not even funny.
Rion - have you seen the placement of the Injen "short ram?" It sits right in the fender...
03-20-2005, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by xmetalx
dc header/injen short ram/ any axle back you choose
i can already feel the power at higher rpm well by the seat of my pants feel that is
03-22-2005, 03:17 AM
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I've got the Injen CAI and the MagnaFlow axleback for auto by precisionmuffler.com. The magnaflow's got a nice low note and fills the exhaust cutout nicely, can't say that I noticed any power differences. The Injen CAI definitely adds responsiveness at low RPMs and feels good at speed. As for the header, it seems to be the piece that dynos with the most improvement, so I'm thinking about that one now. That Strup Header looks sweet but on the pricey side...
03-25-2005, 04:27 AM
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for me i like the design of the aftermarket xb only AEM CAI...
Others swear by injen (xB) short ram (would be my other choice and given that its cheaper...)
K&N is all good rep... but no real evidence of gains or benefits over the two up top..
I'd say those are best for xB intakes...
I'm still undecided on headers... I'm waiting for better/cheaper options lol...
When are 4-2-1s coming out? ever?
and still undecided on exhaust... currently deciding between borla, magnaflow.. or tanabe.. i have diff reasons for wanting each...
Strup stuff is new to me .. i'll probably take a look before purchasing since they seem to have some support.. header might be nice...
Others swear by injen (xB) short ram (would be my other choice and given that its cheaper...)
K&N is all good rep... but no real evidence of gains or benefits over the two up top..
I'd say those are best for xB intakes...
I'm still undecided on headers... I'm waiting for better/cheaper options lol...
When are 4-2-1s coming out? ever?
and still undecided on exhaust... currently deciding between borla, magnaflow.. or tanabe.. i have diff reasons for wanting each...
Strup stuff is new to me .. i'll probably take a look before purchasing since they seem to have some support.. header might be nice...
03-25-2005, 04:59 AM
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i dont know if anyone said yet, but for the exhaust, ive got a JIC magic bullet; and it's great... on top of that, im acutally getting better gas mileage.
ill be running another tank of the same gas w/ the silencer out to see if it's consistent
JIC all the way: )
~tesh
ill be running another tank of the same gas w/ the silencer out to see if it's consistent
JIC all the way: )
~tesh
