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Old 01-22-2005 | 10:38 PM
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Caddy NorthStar V8 mount behind the front seats driving the rear wheels. This thought comes to me about once a month, I know it would take a lot of work to do. Just a wild dream I have.
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Kind of like a Shogun!
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why a northstar? hmm . i guess it is new. screw that new vette motor. supposedly theyre making a kit for the 350.
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Something about that 32 valve Northstar engine, I love the way it sounds.
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Here is a Shogun for those that do not know what it is. It's a Ford Festiva with a Tarus SHO engine in the back.

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how bout a 528 create hemi behind the front seats and turn it into a wheel stander :twisted:
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Here is a Shogun for those that do not know what it is. It's a Ford Festiva with a Tarus SHO engine in the back.

that has got to handle soooooo ____tily , good fun tho , til u spin it , lol it's gotta be squirrelly as all hell. have u guys seen the svt cobra in the focus zx3? now thats a ford i could live with
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The Focus V8 is a beast, there is one running around here in North Georgia.
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dropping a 350 in the box has come to mind a lot. I have a 383 stroker motor in the garage for my 56 chevy pickup what about putting it in the box instead

Or doing something like this to the box
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i saw this posted a long while back this would be sort of similar

Holy torque steer batman!!! CWS tuining did this animal

heres the V8 focus if nobody has ever heard of it. if you havent you gotta see this thing in person. i hightly recomend it

i think this was a sema car in 03. this is fuel injected 4.6
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Originally Posted by hotbox05
Originally Posted by Lava flow
Here is a Shogun for those that do not know what it is. It's a Ford Festiva with a Tarus SHO engine in the back.

that has got to handle soooooo ____tily , good fun tho , til u spin it , lol it's gotta be squirrelly as all hell. have u guys seen the svt cobra in the focus zx3? now thats a ford i could live with
its no different than a porshe setup, so i don't see why it whould handle poorly or be squirley.
but once that tail wants to see whats around front, you better know how to drift or hang on for the ride...
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it would handle poorly cuz it's a fwd car thats been retrofitted , and the motor is gonna be haevy compared to a porsche. maybe i'm wrong.
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the car is dirt light and a big motor equals very hairy riding car
i think only 3 were ever made. Jay leno has i think two. one has N2o in it. turbo mag did a article on it a w h i l e back. some people did their own conversons though.

think go kart with 220 HP and light weight car it will be fine ;)
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i can see if you did not do anything to the suspension, it would.

but clearly they did suspension work....

isn't there a renault that has this as an option????
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yup the renault cilo V6. its originally a FWD 4 cyl but a factory option adds a V6 in the middle

Old 01-23-2005 | 05:15 PM
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a couple years back when i was on the www.Focaljet.com forums, ford focus tuners put a ZETEC 4 with a jackson racing supercharger in the middle of the car!! i sav a video of it and it was crazy. Since the focus was fords best FWD chassis ever it had near 50/50 and was a go kart on the track with the right suspension SICK
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You folks dreaming of mid-engine V-8 power in a box had better get out your tape measures! Maybe with a Toronado tranny...

You might be able to do a front engine/rear drive arrangement if you want to move the firewall back and drive from the back seat!

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This was a thought I had as well. Cut out the rear end and drop in a 3sgte and have a rwd setup since its easy to run around 400hp. I could care less for drifting even though it would take 3 times the practice to do it that with any other front engine rwd setup but this way I get rwd and a street monster that would be untouchable.
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the shogun IS different from a porsche 911 setup, if that's what you mean...a 911 is truly rear-engined, whereas the shogun is mid-engined (engine behind seats, but in front of rear axle). if you're referring to a porsche boxster, which i would imagine you weren't because there are plenty of other mid-engined cars and i don't know why you would single out porsche, then yes, they're similar.

the reason the northstar would make for a good mid-engined/rwd scion xB project is: how many other late-model V8's do you know that came in a FWD application? this sets it up perfectly for MR drivetrain layout, as the transmission could relatively simply be adapted to sit slightly forward of the rear wheels and drive them just as it would sit that way over the front wheels in a stock cadillac. can't say it would handle terribly well, but it would probably be a blast on the drag strip. only big drawback is that they were only paired with an automatic transmission...but you could still have an absolute blast at the bracket drags rattling off consistent low 13's with perfect launches every time
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think 2zz , thatll be like 13's


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