Hey, how much life does a turbo take away from an xa?

 

All depends on proper installation and parts, amount of beating (use), and amount of boost.

If you run very low boost it will last just as long as a regular xA, but then it wouldn't be worth it.

 

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if u run 6psi or less it should last a long time. if you change your oil often enouigh. if u boost over 7psi it wont last as long (most probably)

 

So you think maybe a cheaper supercharger would be better for only a 6 psi boost? You can get superchargers for real cheap

 

where can u get sc for cheap? u mean a universal centrifugal? yeah i've been wanting to toy around with those on previous cars. ( i am for sure doingh it with my bmw 320i) i unno alotta fabbin and such pluse custom fuel management and the likes. if u have the resources do it. i'm sure we'd all love a how to on building f/i for under 1500

 

They have those superchargers on ebay and stuff like that. They dont cost more than about 200, but I don't know how good they are. It says 250 cfm at at 6000 rpm's (about 10- 15 hp gain. Go to ebay and type in scion supercharger). And if you were to get an expensive turbo, how much hp is 6 psi... also 7 psi.

 

oh no no no no, those are absolute crap!

 

oh that's what i was starting to think

 

any ELECTRIC powered turbine for your car will be highly inefficient, because it depends on your car's alternator to supply the power needed to turn it, meaning more load on your engine.

remember, energy can neither be created or destroyed. it can only be converted into different forms of energy.

you cannot create HP from nothing.

oh, btw, i realize that this topic is a bit touchy, for some cars who use an electric powered turbine for drag racing. that is in itself a different subject altogether, as the battery system they use is independant of the car's alternator

 

I always wondered about those cheap superchargers too, thanks for the info!!!!

 

the e-ram ones do work but 300 to 400 dollars for 1 or 2 psi is dumb. the other ones one bay are garbage. they sell legit superchargers on ebay. ati and stuff like that. get one from a mustang or for a mustang very easy to work with and if it has ceramic bearings it will last a long time.

 

man those things are a F**KING joke you can get the same results with a hamster in the hamster wheel

 

Turbo is the only way to go my friend. I suggest you pick up this book called "Maximum Boost" by Corky Bell from amazon.com or something. It's the bible to turbo. Its got everything you need to know about turbo and stuff you need to set up a turbo for your car.

Bolt on stuffs are waste of money. Turbo gives you the most power for the money you spent.

 

wait i thought they were under our hoods already... :D

 

no i had a 1986 ford escort 4 door. thats hamsters. compared to that thing, my scion is a ferrari

 

besides Nitrous at least...

 

Anytime you boost an engine that was not designed from the factory to be boosted, you are placing a strain on the internals that they were not built to accept.

 

ahh, but you are way off... yes the electricity must be created, but where is the source... an alternator takes away a few horsepower - at maximum draw, but the battery serves as a load leveler... the 50 or 80amp draw will not be met by the alternator and you will technically be getting boost from your battery - which will be charged while decelerating or idling...

I am not saying that these superchargers are worth it, but it is the same mentality of switching from a shaft driven fan or electric fans... it gives you back the power when you want it, but overall is not a more efficient setup...

 

oh, and SCFM is only one thing that you need to get boost... the other is the built up pressure at that flow rate...

so for a centrifugal pump... you can have 1scfm with super high pressures or 1000's of scfm with barely any pressure... this is why sizing and the belt ratio are important factors in getting ANY performance increase...

 

actually , the biggest benefit in an electric over a shaft driven is continous fan speed , increased airflow , and quicker rev up versus sfat fan and a lot better sounding motor , and i would be willing to venture out and say that you still gain hp over a shaft driven , cuz and alternator can only draw soo much power , it doesnt work harder if more electricity ids used , the battery will just get more and more drained. the alternator doesnt strain the motor more.