POssible Engine Swaps
11-24-2004, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRedBox
anywhere from 2000-3000
allthough if u got a gt motor you could turbo it. then youd be up to 250hp. but thats more expensive and complicated. i'd just stay with the 180hp n/a . but thats just me and i smoke crack.
11-24-2004, 09:55 PM
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180hp on a car as light as the xB would be pretty fun. Does anyone have a rough estimate of what the parts would cost for the swap? I didn't know if anyone had actually completed the swap yet.
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11-25-2004, 04:05 PM
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You would have to refab motor mounts, Cutouts on the inside of wheelwells, and Move the batt. at least thats how i see it. The 2ZZ would take up most of the engine compartment(and Plus some prolly.)
11-25-2004, 08:50 PM
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theres no room to turbo a celi swap, you have 1/4" clearance. You'll need to remove the radiator support, do the old school civic half radiator setup, and then possibly fit the turbo and run the piping underneath the car. The wiring is tricky as well...I could never get the gauges to operate.
and Nitrous Express hasn't completed the 3sgte swap...theres more work than you could possibly imagine and you need parts from 3 different cars let alone the custom engine and tranny mounts...that doesn't even include the amount of firewall and under carriage work you have to do. You can't just bang out the firewall...it has to be pushed back 6" and the whole frame will be completely cut out...not just 4" like with the 2zz swap. You'll need a custom intake manifold and you'll have to cut out your hood to fit it. Same 1/2 radiator is needed to even fit the turbo in there. No power steering, no AC, no ABS, etc...it's all gone.
People say they have seen the 3sgte swap (one guy in san diego swears by it and says there a walk thru on google he found one day) but there has never been any proof. It's a $7k swap...2zz was $3500
and Nitrous Express hasn't completed the 3sgte swap...theres more work than you could possibly imagine and you need parts from 3 different cars let alone the custom engine and tranny mounts...that doesn't even include the amount of firewall and under carriage work you have to do. You can't just bang out the firewall...it has to be pushed back 6" and the whole frame will be completely cut out...not just 4" like with the 2zz swap. You'll need a custom intake manifold and you'll have to cut out your hood to fit it. Same 1/2 radiator is needed to even fit the turbo in there. No power steering, no AC, no ABS, etc...it's all gone.
People say they have seen the 3sgte swap (one guy in san diego swears by it and says there a walk thru on google he found one day) but there has never been any proof. It's a $7k swap...2zz was $3500
11-25-2004, 09:03 PM
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Oy yeah...and it'll be a tube frame front end...try driving that on the street reliably for a long time.
The 2zz swap is a very simple one...but for even more fun, check out the JDM corrola 1zzfe...160hp and ready for turbo...20 more horsepower right off the bat for a cheaper price than the US 1zzfe. I know a guy with one for sale, $2200 for everything...mounts run around $400...a lil firewall bangin, axles from a (that'll cost you for my info)...wire it up...and have some fun. Once you get the mounts it's about 3 days work to get it in.
The 2zz swap is a very simple one...but for even more fun, check out the JDM corrola 1zzfe...160hp and ready for turbo...20 more horsepower right off the bat for a cheaper price than the US 1zzfe. I know a guy with one for sale, $2200 for everything...mounts run around $400...a lil firewall bangin, axles from a (that'll cost you for my info)...wire it up...and have some fun. Once you get the mounts it's about 3 days work to get it in.
11-26-2004, 11:31 PM
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leaning out the air/fuel mixture in any engine can almost get you to pass smog... but don't do it to boosted or tuned engines... they don't seem to like that... but as far as a diesel goes... i don't think toyota has a diesel engine... where would you get one? a vw? keep same cars and same engines people... that would be the way to go.
11-26-2004, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by flat__tires
leaning out the air/fuel mixture in any engine can almost get you to pass smog... but don't do it to boosted or tuned engines... they don't seem to like that... but as far as a diesel goes... i don't think toyota has a diesel engine... where would you get one? a vw? keep same cars and same engines people... that would be the way to go.
11-27-2004, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by hotbox05
a jdm motor will never pass ca smog tho. hey how can i get some 2zz infor from you? i am so serious about doing this swap.
And if all you care about is smog...I have lots of friends who pass cars and they don't even need the car to do it.
12-02-2004, 09:59 AM
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exactly. lol and i'd much rather get a new 04 celica motor in a few years cuz i cant pass it illegally forever. and hey lemme know about this il passing cuz i've got two other cars i need to il pass to. theyre "test only" if that matters or not. oh another reason to do a legal swap is if i get pulled by a po. if i get pulled with a turbo i'll be screwed have to go to a ref and the 9 if i have a new celica motor i can get it certified and legalized. but with my old supra and bimmer i do need il smogs . and no matter what motor i will need smogs with those pos's. please pm me showpaojoe i need all the help i can get (smogwise)
