what? i am talking from experience. i have worked on and helped build turbo setups before, and i understand the importance of compression and boost pressures and how different engines can handle different amounts of forced induction. anyway, we are just discussing stuff here. i know for a fact that over 99% of people who say they are going to turbo their car don't do it. and most people here haven't even owned a turbo car, but for the few that have worked on them, i would listen to what they have to say. there are a lot of different ways to approach turbo setups and there are a lot of different opinions, even amongst educated engineers. when it comes to things like intercooling, boost levels, and tuning methods, you are going to hear tons of different solutions for the same problem, and they might all be right.

hopefully, i'm going to be one of the people who tries to design my own turbo setup, or at least make one based on an existing proven design, but i need to do more research and see how strong the engine is first. if the engine can handle 6psi of boost, then it will be a worthwhile project. yes, we have all seen the turbo kits on the show cars but we don't even know if they work. a lot of those kinds of things are fake, and just for show. if they aren't, where are the dyno numbers?

the US version of the bBs are going to be more performance oriented and more powerful simply because ours are avilable with a manual transmission. the AWD automatic 108hp engine must be so slow, and turboing it will still make it slower than most front wheel drive manual transmissions with less power. that is why the turbo thing hasn't really been huge in japan, i think.

 

Any new info...especially as far as a ballpark release date?

 

What happend to this kit?!

 

The light bulb went off in my head.

How about a ball bearing t28? :D

 

i think a t28 will be too big, but who knows.

i think this project died.

i might have to do this myself.

 

i know what happened?!?? I tried calling them but no one answered.... ill call back tomorrow... yeah now that i think of it t28 would be too big. I was just excited at the time and thinking "whoa ball bearing small turbo" then i realized it flows just as much as a big16g.. lol

 

Hmm......the webpage says the release date was September of 2003......and it's got a price and all and a number to call and order. I haven't called or tried to contact them. That would suck if it was dead. Someone needs a damn kit for these cars.

KiL

 

Just got off the phone with spy. Exhaust manifold and turbo selection pipes blah blah are complete. There is no ETA on the kit however, they said that they are running into problems with the stock computer...

 

yay. you can do that stuff in one day. obviously the ECU is the hardest part to deal with. i'm sure they will figure out some kind of piggyback thing to screw with the air/fuel mixture and the timing to maximize the effectiveness of the turbo.

oh well, the toyota engineers told me it would be about a year from now until the TRD turbo kit is ready, so i guess it just takes a while.

 

i talked to the guys at spy. the kit is only for the xb right now. and the stage 2 kit hasnt realy been as good as they where hopping but they sayed they are working on it,

 

I think how different companies treat the fuel and ignition management will be the one major factor in determining which forced induction kit is better than another. Most of those kits from Japan are expensive, but it's for a reason: they've invested the time and money into the R&D it takes to ensure that what you're paying for is quality stuff. You will get the hp you expect, and you don't have to worry about whether the parts you got are going to fall apart, or worse yet, blow your engine up. The only downside to going with one of those big-name manufacturers is, of course, cost. Smaller-name manufacturers can sometimes offer some good stuff too, but just be wary of what you're getting... and again, in this case, how they treat the fuel and ignition management will determine whether you should go for it, or run away!

 

Not to get your hopes up, but I may have an excellent engine management solution for the xB in the future. We're planning on tuning the new US Lotus Elise, which as most of you should know by now, is coming with the glorious 1.8l 2ZZ motor. We will have our Xede piggyback working on that engine and ecu, so it should also work on the 1NZ. I'll definately have one tested on my car before the Elise is released.

Good luck with the turbo kit, just don't get greedy and expect huge power gains. (we've only got 1.5l to work with!) Hopefully next year after my turbo AE86 is finnished, I'll start my 2ZZ swap. :D