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Old 12-13-2004 | 05:04 AM
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Damn, i dont see why there is so much negative feedback to this guy's aspirations. I mean... "to each his own" right? Thats what most people say when purchasing this type of car anyway. Besides if there werent enthusiastic people like him then you wouldnt see a cooper with a m3 engine, or an AE86 (Corolla GTS) with a S2000 engine or a Miata with a rotary engine. Just take a look at Jotech's 500+hp tC. There shouldnt be so much negative feedback on a forum for Scion enthusiasts. Just my two cents. Anyway, good luck with that plan of yours... gives me hope for my own
Old 12-13-2004 | 05:14 AM
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Yeah, except for he plans to do it on the 1NZ-FE, on seemingly the stock transmission and everything else, which just is not possible. I think he's getting in over his head and is figuring he'll just "slap on a turbo" and "run the nitrous" and everything else will fall in place. This is nothing against crushing someone's hopes or dreams...this is realism chiming in here. From his post in this thread it just doesn't seem like he has any sort of clue as to the extent of work and fabrication that this is going to take. This isn't just about making a manifold and bolting the turbo on. There are SO many other systems that have to be upgraded...most of which haven't even been made yet (like I said...he's almost going to have to make his own upgraded transmission, axles, etc.). Now if he manages to somehow work in the old turbo MR2 engine as a swap, maybe this all would be possible. But working with the 1NZ this is just not going to happen.

And he thinks it'll all be done by the summer?
Old 12-13-2004 | 05:25 AM
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BOOM! heheh 220whp on stroker turbo, thats the goal for my box....cant wait to start, spare motor ready....manifold on the way.....should be fun but the concern even with 220 is first gonna ba cv's then axels , then tranny.......and im pretty sure there isnt anthing that bolts up to our motor

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Old 12-13-2004 | 04:22 PM
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A t3/t4 spool is far too large for this vehicle. Anyhow, have fun trying... I've been down this road before. I have yet to break an axle, or driveline part but my engine mounts hate me.

Again, have fun... but be realistic. You are not going to run a 200 shot. With a well built engine, a 20 shot would probably be good for intercooling effects alone but anything more than that in conjunction with a turbo would be asking for it.
Old 12-13-2004 | 08:40 PM
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I never said how to make the car handle 300whp...I just said it's very easy to make 300whp which will run around $8k. All that other shiznit *sorry joe, xboxPS2* is obviously not gunna hold up but the power will be there when he has enough for all the other parts to support that power.
Old 12-13-2004 | 08:51 PM
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Hope you have a lot of money, time, and patience. Best of luck as it won't be easy. Post updates if you can.
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Originally Posted by Silencei2
Damn, i dont see why there is so much negative feedback to this guy's aspirations. I mean... "to each his own" right? Thats what most people say when purchasing this type of car anyway. Besides if there werent enthusiastic people like him then you wouldnt see a cooper with a m3 engine, or an AE86 (Corolla GTS) with a S2000 engine or a Miata with a rotary engine. Just take a look at Jotech's 500+hp tC. There shouldnt be so much negative feedback on a forum for Scion enthusiasts. Just my two cents. Anyway, good luck with that plan of yours... gives me hope for my own
man i would slap the ____ out of anyone who would bastardize a ae86 with a disgraceful s2k motor. i've seen em with 7mge , 7mgte , 1jz and there was one i saw where the guy was planning a 2jz. i hate whwn people mix brand like that i mean it's one thing if u use a small block or big block chevy in somethin but damn.
Old 12-13-2004 | 11:40 PM
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why's everyone taking this post so seriously? i think his not responding to his own post by now says something about if the post is true or not. specifically, uh, not.
Old 12-14-2004 | 12:27 AM
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Of course...so the new topic is switching brand engines in another car.

Last night at a meet there was a sick ___ old school bug with a porsche engine...HOLY CRAP, that thing took off and chirped in every gear switch until 4th gear...I mean FAWK...4 big churps and it was soooooo damn inspirational.
Old 12-14-2004 | 01:10 AM
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I know this guy it seems wierd to me a couple of months ago he wanted to sell his box but now hes got a turbo hmmmm
Old 12-14-2004 | 02:41 AM
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well my buddy has a FULLY build jdm supra, and he is runnin close to 400 hp at the wheels on 12 psi (or somewheres about there) and his car is FAST as ISH!....but bro, wish u luck...gonna be a tuff job...id like to see it when done....since we live in the same town and stuff...i see u around all the time...u r in fleming island right?
Old 12-14-2004 | 03:10 AM
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400 hp in a supra is cake walk =P now at least 800whp is FASSSTTTT. my boys is 1100 on race gas 900+ on pump...wwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 12-14-2004 | 04:13 AM
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on a mk4 single turbo you can get up to 1200 on stock internals. it will cost you 10-12,000 dollars for just the turbo kit tho. it's a complete kit tho.
Old 12-14-2004 | 04:20 AM
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yes that high horsepower figures been done and only boostin that on the dyno..my boys car does that daily at that boost =) yay lol yeah that things fun but gas in it sucks...oh well lol..actually u do have to upgrade pistons at least on the 2j...theres only been one mkiv that i know of thats done 800whp w/o upgraded pistons and perfectly driveable daily w/ no problems.its the trd widebodied silver mkiv from kyosho out in city of industry
Old 12-14-2004 | 04:28 AM
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yeah well after the 1000hp kits i believe the kits include pistons. i need to find that page again. but yeah supra's are dyno queens. over 720 hp they're too much for street.
Old 12-14-2004 | 04:35 AM
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u said no internals lol..anyhow, it depends really...my friends car is perfectly driveable..just mind blowing fast he use to daily it then his dumbass got a ae86 n is in love w/ that..now his 55 yr old dads whipping the supra around pickin on kids w/ m3's n what not lol
Old 12-14-2004 | 04:53 AM
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well they say no internals in the kits. i'm guessin they are referring to rods and crank. nothin wrong with an ae. best drift car. at least the best for beginners and the second best next to a sileighty.
Old 12-14-2004 | 04:53 AM
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one the aluminum engine is most likely not goign to be able to handle the psi needed for these engine to even try to get to 300 +whp b/c that would mean the engine would be doing approximately 350 hp itself.. and if it does handle it that 200 shot will definitely kill it..

and 2... what are you going to do about a tranny these tranny most likely wont handle that much plus wont get the use of all that power if did b/c doing 80 you hit 4K rpms.. at 120 you are about 6k rpms in 5th gear so you are pretty much tapped out there..

but hey who wouldnt like a 3000 lb lawn ornament.. thats what i would do with it when the engine is blown up or maybe a cool down hill soap box racer..
Old 12-14-2004 | 04:56 AM
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3000 lbs? wow thats would blow. but um yeah. i wonder how much a stock tranny could handle given an upgraded clutch? 175hp , 200?
Old 12-14-2004 | 05:00 AM
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You never know till you try. I bet it will work and be the fastest scion around. I've seen a geo metro with stock internals with a t3 turbo and thats a 3 cylinder. It can be done. I have faith. I have a turbocharged xb. If you have success with this kit i will definately look into purchasing a turbo system like yours. GOOD LUCK!



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