No, it won't. At least not with upgrading everything we've already discussed. The engine would blow up, the transmission would melt, the axles would snap, etc...NOTHING on that car was engineered to tolerate the strains that having a ton of horsepower would put on all of the car's systems. It was built to be a cheap and reliable SLOW daily driven economy car...I doubt if anything on the car was manufactured to have over 120hp. If you can't look at an xA or xB and realize all of the little things they left out to make the price cheaper, then you need to seriously take a look at your car again. If they left out the gas cap holder on the gas tank door, what makes you think they put in a transmission able to withstand almost 500hp?

 

well u know in general most toyotas are built to hold almost twice as much some are built a lil less tough and some are built alot more . i'd say the car should probably be able to hold double. but ____ think about that 200 hp in a 2400 lb car? not bad. i know on my old supra 87 ( i know different breed of animal) almost everything on that car could handle 500 hp and it came stock with 200 or 230 hp so.....

 

Guess what it isn't a Supra.....ok........lets get that straight here, and a Scion isn't just a different animal it’s like a little Chijuaja compared to a Cougar. The reason the Supras were so overbuilt is because it was Toyota's first real flagship sports car and they went overboard on it. At its peak, MKIV Supras were going for around $50K for the 98 models new. A Scion is $13K, so are you are telling me that you honestly believe Toyota put the same engineering into the Scion as their flagship sportscar...wow.

If Toyota over-engineered every car like they did the Supra they wouldn't be a business.....bottom line… because it is not cost efficient. Hence the astronomical prices of the Supra listed above. I can't believe some of you actually think the Scion was built to be A) modded at that level, B) built to handle mods to the level a Supra can.

It’s the same engine/drivetrain as an Echo.........an Echo.........not a Supra........I don't think an echo comes with a Getrag tranny or forged internals, nor a stock fuel system that can handle 550RWHP (like the Supra does).

Also the gearing is going to have to be completely redone to even attempt to get any use out of that additional power. The xB runs at 4000rpms at 80mph…You’re going to run out of gear very soon after that. You would have to completely re-engineer the gear ratios to be able to do anything with that extra power or you’ll just be sitting at 120mph and at redline with nowhere else to go. Lastly, as mentioned above, that turbo wouldn’t ever spool on this motor effectively as a result of the lack of air the motor can flow.

I am sorry guys but come on….just trying to be the voice of reason here.

Oh, and I know that the Scion would scoot with 200hp...I am not doubting that at all. I mean, my Integra weighs around 2600 and has 240whp, and it's decently quick. I'm also not trying to get anyone to stop chasing their dreams here, and I hope one day that the xA/xB can be like the Civic (only with a better reputation hopefully)...but until there is some sort of aftermarket support for it, it's a tough hill to climb. I just think this guy, if he is serious, is biting off more than he can chew...this is no 3 month project. My friend has been working on his 2G for a year and a half and it's not done yet...but he's basically modified everything (same process this guy would have to go through). If he ends up doing it, 100000 plus points for him. I just don't see how it is possible at all considering the amount of systems that would have to be upgraded or replaced with completely custom parts (the ECU for example)

 

what i'm saying is that throught time toyota's bodies , trans and the like have been better built in comparison to honda. and i dont need the box to go alot faster top gear as compared to going fast from point to point

 

Having 350whp low end (smaller turbo) is going to cause an xB to just spin its wheels or break the axles. Having 350whp top end (larger turbo) is going to be pointless because it will be NA for 75% of the powerband since it would take that long to achieve full boost.
And I don't know of any Toyota that has gone 300,000 miles on the original engine, but know of a few Civics that have. Anyway, I'm not trying to argue. I honestly don't have any objection to people trying to get their cars to be faster or nicer. I just personally believe that there are much better platforms to start from that require much less work to achieve the power gains you are looking to get.

 

yeah i totally agree but its like u have amean ___ supra...then u go to a ae86...i mean for a daily driver its coo, but cmon now...... lol

 

toyotas go a long way my friend..not starting an arguement w/ u, but 22re's can take a pounding my old neighors toyota truck is part of toyotas 400,000 mile club =) woo man that thing still runs nice...ask dave multon he has a toyota truck also, that thing REFUSES to die lol

 

i agree w/ u on all this..all i say is let the guy try..honestly that much power and money into a xB for speed to me is a waste, if u want to go fast i totally agree w/ u on that of gettin a car that was designed for it. the xB is one of the last cars on my list that should be flying. If he wants to do it let him. I know on a stock aluminum bottom end the car cant put that much reliable power down. again i said reliable. a couple of the owners from NC.org have turbo setups pushing 250whp on stock internals and its doing okay so far. a couple of people hit hte 280whp mark and the tranny pops. 280whp mark is w/ internals upgraded. 1 or 2 people have 300+ w/ built everything and full standalone and a very expensive fuel delivery setup. yeah its a grip of money but if this guy wants to try let him. if he fails thats all on him he succeeds good for him. let the guy do what he wants. as for me if i wanted to go fast, id go get my sc300 back w/ my 2jzgte =) yay lol. OT my friends sc300 w/ like 900whp flies hell of a lot smoother than a supra w/ the same power. now THAT is a car to build =)

 

Sorry pal 900hp out of a 2J is not possible on pump gas PERIOD!
no 2J will hold 1200 on stock internals either. 980 @ the wheels is the record for 2J & 799 for 7M. amazing how much misinformation can be spread.

 

uh huh....my homeboys got the dyno sheet and im not hte one who said 1200 on stock internals..my boys car is fully built top to bottom

 

In general, I agree with you. . . but remember that the old school bug's were essentially Porsche's (no offense to porsche fanatics). They were designed by the same guy, and it's not that far of a leap from VW. I think nowadays, the technology and parts have become more distinct, but the lineage is still there, VW, Audi, Porsche. . . and don't forget Lamborghini (the Audification of an exotic, much like the H2 Hummer to the original Humvee).

 

but seriously, good luck with the project. . . I honestly think 300 maybe a bit optimistic, and a bit pointless (because it is a BOX), but if you successfully pull it off, then you will be the xB king! I mean, why not? They have Dodge Caravan's that can outrun Supra's, albeit due to an engine swap!!!

 

oh yeha off the OT stuff back to the scion. tahnks for gettin it ontrack djc

 

lol yeah . 799 for 7m eh? hmm thats my new goal till i get a 1jz then .

 

someone needs to find those 13 second echos and help them school us scion guys...

 

13 sec is a 200+ hp xA w/ a decent driver...nothing hard

 

i still dont know why everyone is so enthralled by 1320 feet, its a straight line.....borign in my opinion, but thats why i like auto-x and road courses.....now i just need time and money to finish everything.....being fast is one thing we wont be, but QUICK and agile will not be hard points to find

brent

on a side note 99.9 percent of the people posting about turbos will never turbo their scion, its just a bunch of people gumming it up about how fast their car will be, and as of right now i am one of them....but i got parts here and stuff coming this way so its on like donkey kong

 

i bet you wouldnt need 200hp maybe like 180?

 

I would kill for 180hp. . . and I'm dead serious when I say that. . .

 

If it's built top to bottom, it doesn't have the stock internals, does it? lol

And btw, what is your buddy's name? My friend is pretty big in the Supra community and knows pretty much everyone with high HP Supras (not personally, but would recognize the car).

Then I'm sorry, but you have chosen the wrong car. You could sell your xA and buy a 1998 ITR with low miles, and have 195hp stock.

Oh well...I'm done.