Is there a VVT-i controller like the Vtech Controller?
#1
Is there a VVT-i controller like the Vtech Controller?
Does anyone know if there is a VVT-i contoller? Jackson Racing has a product called a Vtech contorller that lets you dial in when the Vtech kicks in. Instead of opening everything up at about 6000 in a Vtech engine the Vtech contorller let you dial in at what RPM you what the Vtech to kick in. This essentially brings on the HP and Torque sooner. It does not give you the same effect of a full blowen turbo, but somewhat of a poorman's version. With exhaust and an intake, i am sure it makes a world of a difference.
Just wondering!
Just wondering!
#2
I'm not 100% on this, but it's been explained to me that unlike V-TEC which "kicks in" at certain RPM's, VVT-i is controlled continuously. It doesn't "kick in," but rather is constant throughout the power band.
If anyone knows anything about this, please send it!
If anyone knows anything about this, please send it!
#3
I believe, the VVT-i is a total different set up than the Vtec. The Vtec is activiated by a solenoid which locks the rocker arms together so it will only ride on the cam lobe that has the higher profile. But the VVT-i only advances and retards the timing. It doesnt have the kick like the Vtec.
#7
Like others have said...VVTi is continuous, with no certain powerband point that it "kicks" in at. V-Tec has a certain RPM that it comes through at, so you can get one of many VTec controllers, such as the Apexi V-Afc, etc.
Also, VTech makes phones.
Also, VTech makes phones.
#10
The way that the VVT-i handles the timing is something that should be looked into, but is there a way to reverse engineer it from the ECU?
Or at least understand how it modifies timing, because from what I've been told it is a matter that it only effects at startup and low RPM in order to reduce emissions and modify low end power...
if that's the case then it wouldn't be much of a worry for doing performance mods, but if it does do quite a bit throughout the power band then how do you tune to that without know just what it is doing? I realize VTech modifies lift and timing, and our VVT-i is just timing, but still something to consider...
Or at least understand how it modifies timing, because from what I've been told it is a matter that it only effects at startup and low RPM in order to reduce emissions and modify low end power...
if that's the case then it wouldn't be much of a worry for doing performance mods, but if it does do quite a bit throughout the power band then how do you tune to that without know just what it is doing? I realize VTech modifies lift and timing, and our VVT-i is just timing, but still something to consider...
#13
Originally Posted by supaguy
does anyone know where i would be able to purchase a controller?
#14
okay i have seen "vvt-i" and i have also seen some cars in the toyota lineup with "vvtl-i" now...is that simliar to vtec since it's variable valve timing lift electronic control intelligence? or are vvt-i and vvtl-i one in the same thing? correct me if im wrong. :?:
#15
Originally Posted by ayS
okay i have seen "vvt-i" and i have also seen some cars in the toyota lineup with "vvtl-i" now...is that simliar to vtec since it's variable valve timing lift electronic control intelligence? or are vvt-i and vvtl-i one in the same thing? correct me if im wrong. :?:
Also, my friend had a Field VTEC controller on his Si. He was playing around with it (looking at the settings) while he was driving when he mistakenly changed something. The car freaked out and it started to go into VTEC at low RPMs. It was funny...
#16
VVT-i isn't like VTEC, but VVTL-i (found in celica gts) is like VTEC. The L stands for "Lift" but i call it "toyota's VTEC" puahahha
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plus changing when the VTEC kicks in isn't always good because it should be a linear power curve and if VTEC kicks in too early, your car will bog and there would be a loss of power instead of a gain.
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plus changing when the VTEC kicks in isn't always good because it should be a linear power curve and if VTEC kicks in too early, your car will bog and there would be a loss of power instead of a gain.
#18
Funny thing is... the Lexus IS300 touring race car they removed all the VVTi components with the remakrs of "less things to break" and " we are not concerned about emissions"... is it just a way for our cars to run clean at lower RPMs and be the most it can be at higher? I see it as them making VVTi to kep from having to reduse ALL performance for emissions.. but just adjusting the performance out to tolerable amounts in the lower RPMs...
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Originally Posted by xAzNDeVoTioN
VVT-i isn't like VTEC, but VVTL-i (found in celica gts) is like VTEC. The L stands for "Lift" but i call it "toyota's VTEC" puahahha
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plus changing when the VTEC kicks in isn't always good because it should be a linear power curve and if VTEC kicks in too early, your car will bog and there would be a loss of power instead of a gain.
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plus changing when the VTEC kicks in isn't always good because it should be a linear power curve and if VTEC kicks in too early, your car will bog and there would be a loss of power instead of a gain.
VVTL-I is similar to vtec for a boost in performance and may have an aftermarket controller for it, but we would probably need to hit up another forum for it.
Originally Posted by JDMxB
Anyway--listen up dude--VVTI is nothing like VTEC. VVTL-I is something along the lines of VTEC...
#20
vvti control the phase timing between when the intake and exauhst valves open.
this way you can get 0 overlap at low rpms and some overlap at higherrpms, optimzing fuel efficiency and make the powe band flatter.
vtec actually changes the lift of the cam at a specific rpm. This allows them to use a low lift setting at lower rpms for better low rpm power and fuel efficiency, and a big cam at high rpms for maximum power production.
from a pure horsepoower production standpoint, a vtec system is going to have more potential all else being equal. Being able to 'switch' to a huge lift cam at high rpms is a huge win. Simply changing *when* the intake and exauhst valves open is a bit more subtle.
anyway, could aftermarket control of vvti be useful? I wouldn't expect so on a near stock engine, when you floor the gas pedal it likely goes to optimum horsepower settings.
I wouldnt expect a vtec controller to be useful on a stock honda either.
this way you can get 0 overlap at low rpms and some overlap at higherrpms, optimzing fuel efficiency and make the powe band flatter.
vtec actually changes the lift of the cam at a specific rpm. This allows them to use a low lift setting at lower rpms for better low rpm power and fuel efficiency, and a big cam at high rpms for maximum power production.
from a pure horsepoower production standpoint, a vtec system is going to have more potential all else being equal. Being able to 'switch' to a huge lift cam at high rpms is a huge win. Simply changing *when* the intake and exauhst valves open is a bit more subtle.
anyway, could aftermarket control of vvti be useful? I wouldn't expect so on a near stock engine, when you floor the gas pedal it likely goes to optimum horsepower settings.
I wouldnt expect a vtec controller to be useful on a stock honda either.