Whats the XBidniss? (TC SWAP?!)
01-03-2006, 08:29 AM
#62
Originally Posted by killerxromances
Originally Posted by FLINT
like i was sayin, the box had a veilside kit and rims, projector headlights, cf hood altezza tails, and suiside (rx-
door conversion.
door conversion.
i said rx-8 to give an example for peeps that didnt know how suicide doors operate. 
he said lambo doors sucked cuz everybody has them now.
01-03-2006, 05:35 PM
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Re: Whats the XBidniss? (TC SWAP?!)
Originally Posted by FLINT
so what does everyone think of this? 
That is a very difficult swap to pull off, if not impossble. It's next to impossible to even squeeze the 1.8 from the Corolla in there. I'm just not buying it dude.
01-03-2006, 05:50 PM
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Re: Whats the XBidniss? (TC SWAP?!)
Originally Posted by Biznox
Originally Posted by FLINT
so what does everyone think of this?
That is a very difficult swap to pull off, if not impossble. It's next to impossible to even squeeze the 1.8 from the Corolla in there. I'm just not buying it dude.
01-03-2006, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
I've personally seen a 1.8l in the xb, but the project was never finished. I dont know what happend.
And this is the reason i doubt the 2az swap. A 1.8l causes headaches, it can be done without too many problems but still a few. a 2.0l would be a serious pain by looking at a 1.8l in a box, which leads me to a 2.4l. With the right amount of money, yes, anything is possible. But you are talking about a significant swap, with significant problems with fitment alone...not to mention everything else you have to do after the motor is mounted. Even before that you would have to do lots of cutting, lots of welding, definitely move the firewall back...so on so forth.
Simplyscion: Yes, its true that most people don't spend much time at all on forums that really do lots of work to their cars, if spend anytime at all. I realize this. But something this drastic i believe we would have heard something about with pictures. I mean, if flint actually did see this he would have had to of took pictures or mentioned scionlife to him. Because this isn't a everyday thing, and if this guy does have a 2az i would imagine he would want to show it off as much as possible due to what it is. Especially with the suicide doors and veilside kit. If this box is real, then he definitely has an amazing box. But, i'm a believer in i believe what i see. If flint didn't take a picture, or at very least ask him to join scionlife because xb owners would be thrilled and give him a chance to show off, then i'm going to doubt. Its human nature to doubt things of this size without seeing some sort of evidence. If its real, and i'm shown its real, i will admit i'm wrong gracefully because i'd like to ask him a few questions. Otherwise,
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And this is the reason i doubt the 2az swap. A 1.8l causes headaches, it can be done without too many problems but still a few. a 2.0l would be a serious pain by looking at a 1.8l in a box, which leads me to a 2.4l. With the right amount of money, yes, anything is possible. But you are talking about a significant swap, with significant problems with fitment alone...not to mention everything else you have to do after the motor is mounted. Even before that you would have to do lots of cutting, lots of welding, definitely move the firewall back...so on so forth.
Simplyscion: Yes, its true that most people don't spend much time at all on forums that really do lots of work to their cars, if spend anytime at all. I realize this. But something this drastic i believe we would have heard something about with pictures. I mean, if flint actually did see this he would have had to of took pictures or mentioned scionlife to him. Because this isn't a everyday thing, and if this guy does have a 2az i would imagine he would want to show it off as much as possible due to what it is. Especially with the suicide doors and veilside kit. If this box is real, then he definitely has an amazing box. But, i'm a believer in i believe what i see. If flint didn't take a picture, or at very least ask him to join scionlife because xb owners would be thrilled and give him a chance to show off, then i'm going to doubt. Its human nature to doubt things of this size without seeing some sort of evidence. If its real, and i'm shown its real, i will admit i'm wrong gracefully because i'd like to ask him a few questions. Otherwise,
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01-03-2006, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankenScion
Has anybody seen a pic of any motor swap done in an xB?
I've read so many stories and never seen a pic.
I've read so many stories and never seen a pic.
The only think REMOTELY like that swap that I have heard of (and I am on the internet looking for this stuff constantly) is a 2ZZ swap into a Yaris by a German company and it took massive modifications to accomplish.
The engine bay in this car is microscopic and these are not Honda Civics. There are 4 engines which will drop into the xB:
The 1.3 liter base engine from the JDM model, the 1.5 liter 1NZ-FE, the 1.4 liter turbodiesel from the European Yaris and the factory turbo version of the 1NZ-FE from the European Yaris. The only other practical swap I know if is the 3EFTE (I think) which is the 1.3 liter JDM turbo Starlet motor good for about 133 hp stock, but it is much more mod friendly than the 1NZFE and it is actually designed to withstand forced induction, unfortunately it's not EPA legal for this car and neither are any of the others, other than the 1NZFE we already have.
Anything else will require major, massive modifications.
And that, in a nutshell is why you see 10,000 people TALKING about motor swaps into the xB but NO PICTURES. It's because it isn't really happening. In the vast majority of cases you are seeing hearsay and rumors and fictional stories.
It's not impossible, it's just not cost effective or easy to do motor swaps with this car so you aren't going to see alot of them happening.
01-03-2006, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FLINT
Originally Posted by killerxromances
I've personally seen a 1.8l in the xb, but the project was never finished. I dont know what happend.
And this is the reason i doubt the 2az swap. A 1.8l causes headaches, it can be done without too many problems but still a few. a 2.0l would be a serious pain by looking at a 1.8l in a box, which leads me to a 2.4l. With the right amount of money, yes, anything is possible. But you are talking about a significant swap, with significant problems with fitment alone...not to mention everything else you have to do after the motor is mounted. Even before that you would have to do lots of cutting, lots of welding, definitely move the firewall back...so on so forth.
Simplyscion: Yes, its true that most people don't spend much time at all on forums that really do lots of work to their cars, if spend anytime at all. I realize this. But something this drastic i believe we would have heard something about with pictures. I mean, if flint actually did see this he would have had to of took pictures or mentioned scionlife to him. Because this isn't a everyday thing, and if this guy does have a 2az i would imagine he would want to show it off as much as possible due to what it is. Especially with the suicide doors and veilside kit. If this box is real, then he definitely has an amazing box. But, i'm a believer in i believe what i see. If flint didn't take a picture, or at very least ask him to join scionlife because xb owners would be thrilled and give him a chance to show off, then i'm going to doubt. Its human nature to doubt things of this size without seeing some sort of evidence. If its real, and i'm shown its real, i will admit i'm wrong gracefully because i'd like to ask him a few questions. Otherwise, .
And this is the reason i doubt the 2az swap. A 1.8l causes headaches, it can be done without too many problems but still a few. a 2.0l would be a serious pain by looking at a 1.8l in a box, which leads me to a 2.4l. With the right amount of money, yes, anything is possible. But you are talking about a significant swap, with significant problems with fitment alone...not to mention everything else you have to do after the motor is mounted. Even before that you would have to do lots of cutting, lots of welding, definitely move the firewall back...so on so forth.
Simplyscion: Yes, its true that most people don't spend much time at all on forums that really do lots of work to their cars, if spend anytime at all. I realize this. But something this drastic i believe we would have heard something about with pictures. I mean, if flint actually did see this he would have had to of took pictures or mentioned scionlife to him. Because this isn't a everyday thing, and if this guy does have a 2az i would imagine he would want to show it off as much as possible due to what it is. Especially with the suicide doors and veilside kit. If this box is real, then he definitely has an amazing box. But, i'm a believer in i believe what i see. If flint didn't take a picture, or at very least ask him to join scionlife because xb owners would be thrilled and give him a chance to show off, then i'm going to doubt. Its human nature to doubt things of this size without seeing some sort of evidence. If its real, and i'm shown its real, i will admit i'm wrong gracefully because i'd like to ask him a few questions. Otherwise,
. Infact, i believe one of the jdm sellers has a few 1zz swap pictures.
01-04-2006, 04:59 AM
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have some of yal stopped to think that every scion owner that does serious mods to their rides r not a part of scion life. i use to b 1 of them. although i dont have wild mods, i did sit back and LMAO while looking at posts. i took my sweet time (8 months) joining sl.
while looking at posts. i took my sweet time (8 months) joining sl.
01-04-2006, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by smokeydog001
In MHO, as long as there are "gearheads" you can't discount anything!
01-04-2006, 05:46 PM
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i'm sorry if i dont have time to keep a damn camera in my car to take pics of every dopped up scion i c. youngins especially! yal will learn that when u get older with more things to take care of. yal need to b glad that i at leaste waited 4 him to come out to get the info. so what yal gona do if yal c somethin tight and dont have a camera? pull out paper and pencil and start drawing? lets be realistic.
01-04-2006, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FLINT
i'm sorry if i dont have time to keep a damn camera in my car to take pics of every dopped up scion i c. youngins especially! yal will learn that when u get older with more things to take care of. yal need to b glad that i at leaste waited 4 him to come out to get the info. so what yal gona do if yal c somethin tight and dont have a camera? pull out paper and pencil and start drawing? lets be realistic.
, yes i'm going to start drawing.Being young has nothing to do with it, obviously we have other important things to worry about and deal with vs. trying to find some heavily modifed car to pass time by. Thats a given. But, if i don't have a camera with me i do have a camera phone so it works out for me. If you don't have that option, then that sucks. But, you should have known when you posted this thread people weren't going to believe you without pictures. I mean seriously, if someone said they dropped a 3.8l in the tC would you believe them without some kind of evidence other than words? And what if this tC also had suicide front doors and a custom piece set lip/body kit. What if 80% of the pannels on this made up tC was double sided CF. Would you believe them without pictures? I sure wouldn't, same concept here.
01-04-2006, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FLINT
i didnt believe it myself but o well. when and if peeps start seein a lot of this done to scions. u heard it here 1st.
