Cinderblock

hey do any of the superrchargers, either greddy, blits, or power enterprises have intercoolers? if not, then im gonna get the power enterprises kit and intercool it to make it more efficient and get some more power out of it.

Cinderblock

bump. anybody know? if not ill just intercool the p/e

redwar1441

im not too farmiliar with those kits but an intercooler isnt a magic hp builder. 6psi doesnt generate much heat and therefor an intercooler might just cause a pressure drop and not do anything else. If it gets real hot where you are then i would consider it or if you plan on running alot of boost.

imsonofagun

A water to air intercooler or water/meth injection is probably the best bet. It cools the intake charge and allows you to maintain better boost levels compared to a front-mount air to air intercooler.

jct

greddy and blitz are a screw/roots type s/c the power enterprise is a centrifugal s/c which would work with an intercooler

BrianxB

to clarify for noobs- no roots type supercharger works with an intercooler.

dsmx17

almost correct, "intercooler" (post supercharger but pre-throttle body) will not work IE: your standard air/air intercooler, however, you can use a sandwich style "aftercooler" in a water/air variant with a roots type supercharger if you wanted to drop the coin on it.

redwar1441

cant believe i didnt remember it was a roots type!

EasysBox

the easiest to run an intercooler on, if you so desire, is the PE, but if you wanted to get creative you could run on on the other two as well, its not really needed on any of the three kits though, like redwar said, itll just drop the pressure, unless you plan on bumping up the boost, then the cooler charger would be good to have to prevent detontation.

Cinderblock

man i havent been on in long time. i know the other two are roots types, just checkin on the intercoolers for em kinda like the sandwhich plate. but if i cooled the PE supercharger i have a new pulley made thatd make more boost, prob only 1 or 2 more pounds to compensate for the pressure drop. i live in socal, and it can get hot, but with such a small motor, and small charger the high rpms are gunna cause a bit of heat so intercooler it would be practical. anyone know how the PE works with our cars since it JDM and made for the BB

EasysBox

from what i have read... it bolts right on, but there are some fueling issues you have to take care of. so its not a true bolt on kit. do a couple searches on the PE and you will learn from people who have installed it.

Cinderblock

ok thanks, thats what i was worried about that since it doesnt come with any fuel management stuff i was worried how itd run. i prob just get the greddy kit i guess

redwar1441

do a search i belive 2zz injectors fit that motor and are much larger.

CREEPINGONCHROME

i found one you can add an intercooler to hrer is the link.

http://www.jscspeed.com/scion/scion_base.html

Cinderblock

hey converted (for the power enterprises) over 150 ps is 147 hp aproximatly i guess which isnt shabby, and then intercooled itll get more even witha pressure drop. still lookin for the conversion from kpa to psi lol

captdownshift

and that's before you have a smaller pulley machined ;)
which with an IC and injectors you should be abel to safely do. I've been eyeing the PE supercharger and if i ever get done the sti build i think that's my next project (possibly with the ITB's too)

Cinderblock

so you like the PE, i really want that one cuz the possibilities it has. but its really expensive haha

Cinderblock

hey why not add a BOV to it too, since closing the throttle quickly will do the same as a turbo and build up pressure cuz the blower is still spinnin and harm the blower.

captdownshift

the 1.5l won't rev high enough to over spin the blower so a bov isn't needed

SLOW4point0

Pressure drop after an intercooler is a good thing....why are you guys talking like its something bad. You do realize that you dont make power off of pressure right? PSI is a rating of pressure and if you hook a supercharger up to a straw it will make more "pressure". The only way to make power (and i still can't believe we are talking about an xb LOL) is to combine OXYGEN and FUEL and a SPARK.....if you add extra of any one of these you will see power gains. The oxygen or actual air is rated in cfms. So when you cool something and see a pressure drop the actual air (oxygen) becomes more dense, hence putting more cfms (volume of actual air or OXYGEN) into a certain area at the same amount "boost"......anyone planning on going forced induction should never be spoon fed. It is a very technical thing and people should study what will be happening before they listen to what greddy is going tell them. I suggest Max boost by Corky Bell as a beginners novel.

P.S. I am not calling anyone out of making fun at anyone, i am mearly trying to educate. I have boosted many things in my life and have found through trial and error. I wish someone would have pointed me in the correct direction years ago and maybe i would have saved some money.