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Old 11-18-2005 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
You dont need everything that I have, but like I said, if you wanna do it right you gotta spend the bucks.

Yea, what he said...


Here is a link to the photos of my turbo installation on the xB...

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Old 11-18-2005 | 01:16 AM
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Yo, my bad Stuart, after walkin around for that lil bit and eating something I layed down on the bed and it swallowed me up for the rest of the night(the beds were ridiculous at the Wynn)...I woke up and looked at the clock and it was like 3:30 in the morning. I was soo ____ed cause I definitely wanted to get up and chill for a few. It was a crazy week though and I definitely was soo tired and shot from all the walking and partying.
We will get up one day soon though, Im gonna cruise up there soon before the holidays and check out the box cause I havent seen it since the major overhaul.
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is fuel return system REQUIRE for TSI kit?
Old 11-18-2005 | 04:56 AM
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is fuel return system REQUIRE for TSI kit?
No, but if you didnt go with the extra injector setup which I dont think you did, then I would defnitely do it. I didn't use the added injectors either cause I was going to do a return line from the begining.
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so upgrade fuel pump, rail and injector is not gonna do much as fuel return system?
Old 11-18-2005 | 05:04 AM
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A return line could only help. I guess its up to you if you wanna do it or not but I think that you went this far as to do everything else, it might make sense to just do the return line.
Old 11-18-2005 | 05:57 AM
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how much does it cost? and how hard is it to install?
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well, figure about $100-$125 for the fuel line
about $160 for the Aeromotive Fuel pressure reg(I have one brand new in the box if you wanna buy that one...I bought 2 on accident through Ebay and never returned it)
about $100 worth of Earls AN fittings

Its not hard at all, if you were able to change the fuel pump, you can run the return line. You also need some zip ties or clips to hold the line tight up against the frame.
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hmmmm ....

do i need to drill any hole?

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with that outta the way I guess i have to let you guys know that I enjoy driving togues...would being boosted be more a disadvantage or an advantage? I don't know anything on turbos, just that smaller one spool faster, and bigger ones spool slower....and...yeah. one more question...what are THE necessaties parts wise when it comes to boosting, I mean the stuff that you ABSOLUTELY need to purchase
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hello people, I have a blitz boosted ECHO and my question is how does the car ecu get along with the Greddy E-manage? I have an S-AFCII installed but that is not cutting it because of the factory ecu. I am thinking of upgrading to the E-Manage Ultimate but before I drop the cash I want to know if our damn "too smart ECU's" will negate any positive effects here is my car domain addy for the rest of the ECHO mods.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/365461
Old 11-18-2005 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bomex-bB
hmmmm ....

do i need to drill any hole?

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All you need to do is drill one hole in the sending unit to put the bulkhead fitting in then you are set.
Old 11-18-2005 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by glamdrig2000
hello people, I have a blitz boosted ECHO and my question is how does the car ecu get along with the Greddy E-manage? I have an S-AFCII installed but that is not cutting it because of the factory ecu. I am thinking of upgrading to the E-Manage Ultimate but before I drop the cash I want to know if our damn "too smart ECU's" will negate any positive effects here is my car domain addy for the rest of the ECHO mods.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/365461
With your ECU you will have better luck...we have a different bit rate processor than you do, and ours is far more advanced which means you are lucky and we get sh!ted on hahaha. With the Emanage and the Map sensor for tuning you sould be alright. Have you tried pulling your EFI fuses once every couple of days yet?
Old 11-18-2005 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gnar-de-gwar
what are THE necessaties parts wise when it comes to boosting, I mean the stuff that you ABSOLUTELY need to purchase
Well, obviously the turbo, manifold, intercooler, BOV, and some sort of fuel management(which is entirely up to you how far you wanna take it) If you only wanna run 4-5 psi then you will be alright with a simple piggy back, but I suggest anything after that you should highly consider injectors, fuel pump at the minimum.
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Originally Posted by glamdrig2000
hello people, I have a blitz boosted ECHO and my question is how does the car ecu get along with the Greddy E-manage? I have an S-AFCII installed but that is not cutting it because of the factory ecu. I am thinking of upgrading to the E-Manage Ultimate but before I drop the cash I want to know if our damn "too smart ECU's" will negate any positive effects here is my car domain addy for the rest of the ECHO mods.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/365461
With your ECU you will have better luck...we have a different bit rate processor than you do, and ours is far more advanced which means you are lucky and we get sh!ted on hahaha. With the Emanage and the Map sensor for tuning you sould be alright. Have you tried pulling your EFI fuses once every couple of days yet?
i havent pulled the fuses but just curious what will that do?
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from looking at picture of fuel return system it seems pretty easy.

my question is how does it work? to me it seems like its pulling left over fuels from fuel rail back into the tank... is it right?

and what is that black hose hooked up to?

from that unit (forgot name) 1 is from the rail, 1 goes back to sending unit, whats that black one?

And for the sending unit, I just need to drill one hole to put the fuel line in right? Do i need to connect it to somehwere?

Sorry about bunch of Q's....
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Fuel return system does just what it says, its a constant flow of fuel from the tank to the rail to the regulator and back to the tank. Black hose is a vacuum line. The bulkhead that you drill into the sending unit is just the drain, so when you attach the bulkhead to the line your all setup for the return.
Hope that helps...if its not clear to you I will try to explain it better.
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Originally Posted by glamdrig2000

i havent pulled the fuses but just curious what will that do?
It resets your fuel trims back to normal. You are probably experienceing some bogging during boost then it kicks right in correct?? Thats the fuel trims trying to compensate for the boost you are pushing through the intake mani, totally erasing anything you tried to adjust through the S-AFC. Try pulling both EFI fuse and EFI relay and run it for a day...it will run a hell of a lot better I can promise you that.
Old 11-19-2005 | 01:48 AM
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If you need photos of how to do the fuel return, check out my site.. www.lastlookcustoms.com There are a ton of pictures in the photo gallery of the turbo install including placement of the fitting in the sending unit. If you have any ?'s, shoot me an IM on AIM.. Screename is LastLookCustoms
Old 11-19-2005 | 02:57 AM
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Ok, I found what was wrong with it.

S-AFC II was not hooked up correct.... stupid a$$....

anyway I got the fuel pump, rail, injector, swapped S-AFC II to Greddy E-Management, and the spark plug.

Now it runs like its ment to be.

Thx guys for all the help.

CEL is not commin on and dang it feels good.... to be boosted...



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