supercharger for an xB
#21
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umm the twin screws are AWESOME!,,,,,used a few times..and currently my TB SC has one..hmmmm 315lbs tourque stock...before mods...out of a 3.8 V6..yeah thats terrible
#25
Originally Posted by PSIKOTICxB
ive had experiences with a sc and turbo car b4 (sc honda civic / tc honda crx)...a turbo is far better as far making power / adjustability
#27
Originally Posted by firesquare
you cant just throw on a blower and beat the sh out of it, it requires fine tuining of the air fuel ratio. and delivery at top end/high boost. then you gotta worry about cooling because compressed air creates friction/heat. so forth and so on.
bolt it on and go.
#28
Originally Posted by chucksu
Lets see here... About 130hp @ the crank (the ones with 141whp have more then just the S/C on there car) So you figure thats a gain of about 25hp over stock 06 numbers. So you paid $3,000 for 25 hp = $120/hp. Not to bad, but still not a real bang for the buck. My intake, even if it only gave me 2hp was then $42.5/hp. So there are cheaper things that can be done, to get a better cost to power gain. The only problem is, that the S/C & Turbos give the most power gains.
the stock hp is 92 whp (5spd)
after the S/C 138 whp (5spd)
46 hp gain...very goo numbers on an otherwise stock xB
price 2,400
$52/hp very close to any other mod cost/hp ratio
#29
Originally Posted by FrankenScion
Originally Posted by Sciond
Originally Posted by FrankenScion
Cause I have helped install one and I have seen it in action.
I have seen a SC'ed auto xB lose to a NA stick xB.
I have seen a SC'ed auto xB lose to a NA stick xB.
vertical doors...
stereo...
if you think his other mods have given him monster HP numbers you are just being silly...
take a deep breath and relax...
#30
Maybe it's just the Blitz that sucks then.
But, when I mentioned the other stuff Matchbox had done, I was talking performance stuff. Like all this: "Power Enterprise Cam-Con , 320cc injectors, Polished ceramic header, Hi-flow cat , Full cat back Magnaflow exhaust, SPEC stage 3 race clutch , Rear O2 bypass , DIY Ground voltage stabilizer , 4awg Grounding kit". Thats from his profile.
But, when I mentioned the other stuff Matchbox had done, I was talking performance stuff. Like all this: "Power Enterprise Cam-Con , 320cc injectors, Polished ceramic header, Hi-flow cat , Full cat back Magnaflow exhaust, SPEC stage 3 race clutch , Rear O2 bypass , DIY Ground voltage stabilizer , 4awg Grounding kit". Thats from his profile.
#31
Originally Posted by PSIKOTICxB
ive had experiences with a sc and turbo car b4 (sc honda civic / tc honda crx)...a turbo is far better as far making power / adjustability
#32
Originally Posted by FrankenScion
Maybe it's just the Blitz that sucks then.
But, when I mentioned the other stuff Matchbox had done, I was talking performance stuff. Like all this: "Power Enterprise Cam-Con , 320cc injectors, Polished ceramic header, Hi-flow cat , Full cat back Magnaflow exhaust, SPEC stage 3 race clutch , Rear O2 bypass , DIY Ground voltage stabilizer , 4awg Grounding kit". Thats from his profile.
But, when I mentioned the other stuff Matchbox had done, I was talking performance stuff. Like all this: "Power Enterprise Cam-Con , 320cc injectors, Polished ceramic header, Hi-flow cat , Full cat back Magnaflow exhaust, SPEC stage 3 race clutch , Rear O2 bypass , DIY Ground voltage stabilizer , 4awg Grounding kit". Thats from his profile.
Cam-Con did not give him much (he is ditching it for a better system)
injectors...no HP gain, just preventing it from leaning out too badly
the exhaust system did give him 3hp
voltage stabilizer and grounding kit...still under debate if it could add hp. it might smooth out the idle but not really adding hp.
the clutch has to be done as the stock clutch can not handle more than 100 hp (even people without boosting have issues with slipping clutches)
i don't know enough about bypassing the rear O2 sensor to know what if any hp increases it gives.
#33
I can't argue with you about this stuff cause you know a helluva lot more about than I do. I just know, with my 5 speed xB with I,H,E, I can beat an auto xB with I,H,E and a Blitz SC.
#34
i also know that my 5spd with I/H and axle back beat a stock tC (auto) (before i did the S/C)
you know enough of the blitz to comment on it (install and performance (or lack of...)) i am not doubting the claims made about the Blitz.
i do know what is required to install the Blitz, and it is considerable more work than the PE.
i know the Blitz does not produce as much power as other kits do.
so i am not doubting those claims. it is the general statements made by some others or the assumptions that give people the wrong ideas.
you do bring up a good point about Autos.
they do suck in boosted applications.
they suffer the same problems as the sticks do, they cannot handle the power. the torque converters are not up to the task of a boosted application. at least in the stick you can get a new clutch to get the power down.
you know enough of the blitz to comment on it (install and performance (or lack of...)) i am not doubting the claims made about the Blitz.
i do know what is required to install the Blitz, and it is considerable more work than the PE.
i know the Blitz does not produce as much power as other kits do.
so i am not doubting those claims. it is the general statements made by some others or the assumptions that give people the wrong ideas.
you do bring up a good point about Autos.
they do suck in boosted applications.
they suffer the same problems as the sticks do, they cannot handle the power. the torque converters are not up to the task of a boosted application. at least in the stick you can get a new clutch to get the power down.
#35
Originally Posted by dgHotLava
the extra stuff you claim on S/C cars do not add more than a few hp. (5 maybe)
the stock hp is 92 whp (5spd)
after the S/C 138 whp (5spd)
46 hp gain...very goo numbers on an otherwise stock xB
price 2,400
$52/hp very close to any other mod cost/hp ratio
#36
do you have a link for the HPJunkies???
it was just something i came across and the price was right so i picked it up....
it was a year ago, so i don't remember who/where but it was 2,400.00 shipped.
install is easy (if you can do an intake and change your own oil you can do this install)
it was just something i came across and the price was right so i picked it up....
it was a year ago, so i don't remember who/where but it was 2,400.00 shipped.
install is easy (if you can do an intake and change your own oil you can do this install)
#37
Originally Posted by FrankenScion
I can't argue with you about this stuff cause you know a helluva lot more about than I do. I just know, with my 5 speed xB with I,H,E, I can beat an auto xB with I,H,E and a Blitz SC.
#38
Originally Posted by mike51392
Originally Posted by FrankenScion
I can't argue with you about this stuff cause you know a helluva lot more about than I do. I just know, with my 5 speed xB with I,H,E, I can beat an auto xB with I,H,E and a Blitz SC.
#39
Ok, I am the guy that is getting ragged on.
Yes my S/C is not doing to hot at the moment.
I am having fuel management issues again with my xB. Blitz sent me another fuel controller, and it did help with the problems I had with the older one. Now I am having other issues. It is not getting enough gas to compensate for the air as I have I, E, H.
I am trying to work with Blitz to fix this issue. I have spoken with a few technicians at blitz and waiting for a response. So yes, at this point in time, Jon can beat my Box, my Supercharger is running like poop right now. I just hope that Blitz comes up with a good suggestion to fix this problem without diggin further into my wallet!
Once my S/C is running the way it should be, I think Jon will change his opinion about it all! But he did spend many hours with me installing it so I'm not going to rag on him to much!
Yes my S/C is not doing to hot at the moment.
I am having fuel management issues again with my xB. Blitz sent me another fuel controller, and it did help with the problems I had with the older one. Now I am having other issues. It is not getting enough gas to compensate for the air as I have I, E, H.
I am trying to work with Blitz to fix this issue. I have spoken with a few technicians at blitz and waiting for a response. So yes, at this point in time, Jon can beat my Box, my Supercharger is running like poop right now. I just hope that Blitz comes up with a good suggestion to fix this problem without diggin further into my wallet!
Once my S/C is running the way it should be, I think Jon will change his opinion about it all! But he did spend many hours with me installing it so I'm not going to rag on him to much!
#40
Originally Posted by KevinxB
Originally Posted by mike51392
Originally Posted by FrankenScion
I can't argue with you about this stuff cause you know a helluva lot more about than I do. I just know, with my 5 speed xB with I,H,E, I can beat an auto xB with I,H,E and a Blitz SC.