Sciond

umm the twin screws are AWESOME!,,,,,used a few times..and currently my TB SC has one..hmmmm 315lbs tourque stock...before mods...out of a 3.8 V6..yeah thats terrible

NEROAZUL

iTrader: (1)

Either one is good if properly tuned. The Blitz unit is designed for a small increase not to make it a race car.

FrankenScion

I don't about you, but for 3K I better be getting more than a small increase.

PSIKOTICxB

ive had experiences with a sc and turbo car b4 (sc honda civic / tc honda crx)...a turbo is far better as far making power / adjustability

FrankenScion

What area are you from? With a screen name like that you have to be in our club.......lol.

dgHotLava

wow.....
all this BS from folks that do not have these products on their scions.

dgHotLava

the PE kit is complete and requires no further tuning to be effective for the life of the car.

bolt it on and go.

dgHotLava

the extra stuff you claim on S/C cars do not add more than a few hp. (5 maybe)
the stock hp is 92 whp (5spd)
after the S/C 138 whp (5spd)
46 hp gain...very goo numbers on an otherwise stock xB

price 2,400

$52/hp very close to any other mod cost/hp ratio

dgHotLava

yeah, heavy 19's
vertical doors...
stereo...

if you think his other mods have given him monster HP numbers you are just being silly...
take a deep breath and relax...

FrankenScion

Maybe it's just the Blitz that sucks then.

But, when I mentioned the other stuff Matchbox had done, I was talking performance stuff. Like all this: "Power Enterprise Cam-Con , 320cc injectors, Polished ceramic header, Hi-flow cat , Full cat back Magnaflow exhaust, SPEC stage 3 race clutch , Rear O2 bypass , DIY Ground voltage stabilizer , 4awg Grounding kit". Thats from his profile.

dgHotLava

on a Honda you are correct.

dgHotLava

i'll give you the Blitz...it does suck somewhat.

Cam-Con did not give him much (he is ditching it for a better system)
injectors...no HP gain, just preventing it from leaning out too badly
the exhaust system did give him 3hp
voltage stabilizer and grounding kit...still under debate if it could add hp. it might smooth out the idle but not really adding hp.

the clutch has to be done as the stock clutch can not handle more than 100 hp (even people without boosting have issues with slipping clutches)

i don't know enough about bypassing the rear O2 sensor to know what if any hp increases it gives.

FrankenScion

I can't argue with you about this stuff cause you know a helluva lot more about than I do. I just know, with my 5 speed xB with I,H,E, I can beat an auto xB with I,H,E and a Blitz SC.

dgHotLava

i also know that my 5spd with I/H and axle back beat a stock tC (auto) (before i did the S/C)

you know enough of the blitz to comment on it (install and performance (or lack of...)) i am not doubting the claims made about the Blitz.
i do know what is required to install the Blitz, and it is considerable more work than the PE.
i know the Blitz does not produce as much power as other kits do.
so i am not doubting those claims. it is the general statements made by some others or the assumptions that give people the wrong ideas.

you do bring up a good point about Autos.
they do suck in boosted applications.
they suffer the same problems as the sticks do, they cannot handle the power. the torque converters are not up to the task of a boosted application. at least in the stick you can get a new clutch to get the power down.

Superfa

Where did you find the PE300 for $2400.00? I know that HPJunkies has just the head unit for $2400, but the rest of the kit is $3560.00. The cheapest I've seen it is $2995.00. I would like to find one at 24...

dgHotLava

do you have a link for the HPJunkies???

it was just something i came across and the price was right so i picked it up....
it was a year ago, so i don't remember who/where but it was 2,400.00 shipped.
install is easy (if you can do an intake and change your own oil you can do this install)

mike51392

a xb with a 5 speed with i,h,e will not beat a s/c auto xb - an i,h,e only give you between 5-8 hp and thats 5500 rpm with no real gain at low rpm and a small gain at mid rpm - while in the other hand a s/c gives you hp gains from mid rpm to high rpm - just so you know

KevinxB

I think they have actually raced, he's not just talking hyothetically.

xBtuner

Ok, I am the guy that is getting ragged on.

Yes my S/C is not doing to hot at the moment.

I am having fuel management issues again with my xB. Blitz sent me another fuel controller, and it did help with the problems I had with the older one. Now I am having other issues. It is not getting enough gas to compensate for the air as I have I, E, H.

I am trying to work with Blitz to fix this issue. I have spoken with a few technicians at blitz and waiting for a response. So yes, at this point in time, Jon can beat my Box, my Supercharger is running like poop right now. I just hope that Blitz comes up with a good suggestion to fix this problem without diggin further into my wallet!

Once my S/C is running the way it should be, I think Jon will change his opinion about it all! But he did spend many hours with me installing it so I'm not going to rag on him to much!

FrankenScion