Agreed.

 

I was thinking the same thing, but I like the XD-40 better (sub-compact) of course.

 

I've had a G19 since 11/24/99 and LOVE it!

I too live in a "legal" state and have a concealed carry permit. I carry my G19 in a Israeli Fobus tactical holster that clips into my waistband. The G19 is very easy to conceal, and shoots like a dream! Totally reliable, and that's the main reason I bought it. I looked at the G26, and although I have small hands, it seemed WAY too small for me (I wanted something I could get more than 2 fingers around!).

I've since modded my G19 with a Seattle Slug, a RecoilBuffer, and a LaserMax internal laser (which I LOVE).

I too carry hollowpoints (Speer Gold Dots, Cor-Bon +P+, and Black Talons) so I don't have to worry as much about over-penetration should I have have to discharge it in my house against an assailant (we live WAY out in the county, and the cops would take forever to respond).

I recommend the G19! Go for it!

 

Very nice! My "tag along" is a Bersa 380...... I know, not a huge knockdown gun... but its compact, reliable and would get the point across ok Will fit in my pocket with slightly loose jeans un-noticeably.... and is at least cheap at the range :-) I definitely dont carry one everywhere i go... but on long road trips and stuff like that.... it is a nice peace of mind. People can _____ all they want... but until I hear that all car-jackings, rest stop murders, etc are gone forever.... I would rather be safe than sorry. That goes for my home as well. I think that any responsible law abiding person (ok.... other than the speeding issue!) should be able to protect his/her self and family!!

 

Yep. I bought a 9mm because ammo is cheap, the gun (especially my Glock) is easy to handle, and I can put more shots on target in a shorter amount of time than with a larger caliber gun. I know some will say that with a larger caliber gun you don't NEED to put more shots on target, but if I missed with, say, a .45, the recovery time is a lot worse than with a 9mm. If you're shooting the right ammo and know where to aim, a 9mm, .380, heck - even a .22 - can be just as deadly. Case in point: a local teen was killed last week with... a PELLET GUN! A Very, very sad story, but just goes to prove the point that you don't need a Desert Eagle chambered in .50AE to kill.

I've heard so much griping in my life over carrying & owning a gun, I don't even hear it anymore! It's like "white noise" on the TV! If people don't want to own and carry, fine. Personally, I'd rather die with a gun in my hand against a home invader than WITHOUT a gun in my hand against a home invader. At least I'll die putting up a fight!

 

How do you like the KelTec? I thought about picking up one as a backup because they're fairly inexpensive. I've heard varying reports on their reliability, though, which is the only thing that's stopped me from buying one so far.

 

I did the 'usual' polishing and smoothing of the innards, and the little beast has been absolutely reliable feeding both cheapo "PMC" 71 gr. FMJ for target and Speer GoldDot 60 gr. HP for carry. It's a very simple mechanism, and seems to function well with just a little attention to detailing.

The "sights" are a joke, but, after all, this IS a belly gun. At the ranges it is expected to be used sights are a waste anyway.

Would I be happy with this as a primary? No, not because it's ever given me any grief at all, but because it just doesn't *feel* that substantial - heck, it weighs less than my cellphone...

One thing, though, .32 is an almost orphan calibre - not that much choice in ammo available at most places. That's one reason my first choice is a 9mm - everything from wide-open hollow points to fragmentation to armor-piercing rounds are available.

You wrote in a prior post I like this exchange from another forum a few years ago...

"I wish all you gun-toting ********s would just go create your own nation!"

"We did. Who the Hell let you in here?"

:D

 

Yeah, most of the "clientele" that buy many of these guns aren't interested in "precision shooting" anyway. I'd just like one for a "just in case" gun. Nice to know that it *is* a usuable, serviceable gun, though.



The only .32 I've ever thought about buying was a Hammerli 280, mainly for collecting purposes and target shooting.

I definitely tend to lean towards 9mm, especially for carry guns. It's an inexpensive round with a respectable amount of power.


That's great!

 

Much like Tomas, I load my guns the same way.

The primary racked clip in my Balister-Molina 1911 .45 is Glaser Safety Slugs, with my second clip being a ten-round full of Black Talons, err, Ranger SXTs.

My S&W 6906 is set up the same way, but only half of the first clip are Glasers.

My Mossberg 590 Stainless alternates 00 Buckshot and 3.5" slug through the mag.

Neat thread. I wonder if we could modify the center storage bin to need a combination to open like the home safes.

LATER

 

I've almost decided to stop carrying Black Talons. A person I know used some against a felon during a home invasion and killed the guy. During court they tried to hang him even though he was well within his legal rights. They said because he was using Talons he was "looking to kill/mortally wound" someone instead of just "wounding them" until Police could arrive. Uhhhh... If you break into my house, you won't get to meet the cops!

Talons have such a stigma associated with them since they were labeled as "cop killer bullets" way back in the mid-90s. Idiotic, overreactive people!

By the way, the guy got off since he did everything legally. In the end, it didn't matter what type of bullets he used, as long as they were legal (and BTs are). The law just likes to give crap about using them.

 

I agree! And I love the people who say a smaller round would just ____ someone off I bet it would ____ them off to have hole in them... but they wont feel like doing much about it I keep silver tipped HP in the bersa. So far I love the gun, very fun to shoot, and accurate for a small gun! My next buy is going to be a .40... Thinking about the Berreta. My friend has one, and I love the way it shoots. Very comfortable in my hand as well. I love the Glock, but I havent found one that feels right in my hand so far.

I love your last statements, my sentiments exactly..

 

I got ninja stars in mine.

 

That's awesome...........

 

Heh heh.... would make a good shirt huh?

 

No one said anything about carrying a gun to get someone for cutting you off... people that pull a gun over stupid ____ like that are one of the reasons I DO own guns. A gun is for last option protection against idiots like that. The problem is that people group everyone that carrries or owns guns into that category.. missing the whole point. There ARE crazy, violent people out there, and they ARE armed, regardless of the law. And while there is a chance for someone to attack me, invade my home, rape my wife or attack my child, I choose to protect myself and them the way I see fit. I am a responsible person with no desire to pull a gun on anyone... its the ones that arent in that mindset that makes the need for personal protection so prevelant.

 

My tC version of the security system

 

Here's my Glock19 medium-framed 9mm with 10 shot clip loaded with Speer GoldDot hollowpoints. Also shown is my Israeli Fobus tactical holster. NOT shown are my 17 and 30 round clips for various "legal reasons".

You can also see the brass Seattle slug protruding from the backstrap channel.

 

do you guys really feel safer with a gun... I really dont see the point its just a way for someone to get hurt or you even... I have real mixed emotions about them and atleast think they shouldnt be aloud in a car b/c many things can happen.

 

I agree.. there shouldnt be any of them on the whole planet.... but as long as there is... there are people out there carrying them that should not have them.... and as long as that is true... then yes, I feel safer with one. I love shooting, it great fun, but there are a lot of scary things going out there that make me want to protect myself. I dont ever feel the urge to pull a gun on anyone , unless I felt my life was in danger. As long as people have that mentality, then things can be safe. But the people who do not have that mentality will carry them regardless of the laws... As long as those people are out there, then I will take measures to protect myself and my family.

 

to reiterate:

To expound a bit more... Gun laws do nothing to stop criminals from getting guns. Criminals don't get their guns through "legal" means (they are "criminals", after all). So, as long as there are criminals out there toting illegally-obtained firearms and it's perfectly legal for me to own one (as establised hundreds of years ago thanks to the 2nd Amendment) I will be happy to own a gun to protect life and property. Like I said before, I might still get shot (and maybe even killed) by a home invader, but at LEAST I had a way to defend myself, and I will die putting up a fight and won't die curled up in the fetal position at the mercy of an assailant.

The nearest Police station is over 5 miles away from my house. From the time the call is dispatched until the first unit arrives would be 5 minutes or more. A LOT can happen in 5 minutes. I'm not going to try and hold-off an armed intruder with a plunger and a can of pepper spray.