Anybody learn what their alignment change was after dropping the car? Or did everybody pretty mush drop and go?

Dropping the car, especially 2", will give you more Negative camber, which that alone, will give you more cornering traction. I'm curious how much negative camber it gives, and if it's upwards of -2 or more and then it should need realignment.

Toe typically changes too, but depends on the caster. I don't feel much caster in these cars, so I don't think the toe would change much from dropping the car, but it's still good to check..

Thanks,

 

I can feel a little difference, but nothing major though as I drove like this for almost two months. I'm going for an aligment anyways.

 

I usually go for an alignment anytime I do a suspension change. I would rather pay $60 for a 4 wheel alignment, than have to pay $200+ for two tires a few months down the road. Or in the case of the Matrix w/ the S-03s, $400+.

 

with xa's/xb's the camber doesnt change with a 2 inch. i'f it does change it is so negligable. i bet it's still within stock specs

 

hotbox is the suspension man! would you reccomend an alignment after the trd springs put on a tc?

 

tc i would cuz the suspension is diff. with trds its not necessary tho . the rear will want to tuck but with a 1 inch drop the camber change will be minimal. id say it's insurance. if u can find a place thats 60 or less 4 all 4 tires do it if more than that i wouldnt worry.

 

lol i wouldn't go that far. i dont have money for myself to have a nice suspension but i'm doin what i do with what i could get lol.

 

When I first installed the Spy springs, I had mad toe out. When I installed the TEIN coilovers it was still in spec, er, Echo spec, since the shop I go to didn't have the Scion in its database yet.

 

After sending my message, I gave it some thought, and realized that the rear definately would not change simply because of the arm geometry in the rear.

The fronts are a Macpherson strut setup, and not a dual arm setup, so I wasn't sure in those respects. I have no experience in alignments changes/reactions to Macpherson strut suspension. Only that Mustangs with them at the autox have lots of trouble getting the negative camber they need. ; )

Thanks hotbox05. Actually, that's kinda disappointing.. 8( I was hoping to get some negative camber by dropping the car...

 

Lee, only with camber plates up front. I'm waiting for mine to come in. I want to run 2 degrees negative up front.

 

And those are the plates that move the top of the struts, that get adjusted inside the engine bay, right?

Not the funky bolts that adjust the camber by the wheel hub? Those don't seem to give much camber.

I could see by the wear on my tires after the track day that it's in need of some camber. The fact that she's still riding high like a truck ain't helping much, but she still could use some camber.

Who are you getting them from, and for how much? I've looked around and havn't found anything.

 

This is what you're talking about LeeD, correct?


They have them in the SL parts section, but I don't know where to actually order them from.
IIRC these things also drop the front something like .5 - .75 inch too.

 

Yes, the plates that replace the top hats of the MacPherson struts. They allow the strut to move inboard for more negative camber. I was never a fan of the camber bolts you mention as they never gave enuff adjustment, in my opinion.

 

yeah the camber bolts are really only good for adding more postivie to a car that is mildly lowered. what sucks is if u have a double wishbone car like my supra. almost nothing can fix the camber unless u slot the front crossmember. which is what i'm gonna do. i dont need too much negative(i have like 3 degrees) it's a street car and my yokos dont live to long like that. but with a macpherson setup like the scions and my old bimmer u just get a nice billet adjustable top hat and bam 300 bucks gone but infinate adjustability . well kind of.

 

ohh i didnt know they dropped the car a bit. nice i'm gonna have to get those. now i gotta see how much. i'll wait to get em til i get some coilovers , that is unless the coilovers have pillow ball.

 

They are included with most of the middle and almost all of the higher end coilovers. Atleast that's the way is in the 240sx/180sx/silvia world.