Hotchkis? Progress? Any one have any experiences with another sway bar set up
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progress, for a daily driver and occasional racer. Whiteline for a much sitffer ride.

 

i had progress and whiteline...

progress was good for daily driving. i really liked how the feel of driving changed when i added it on.

then i got whiteline. huge difference, much stiffer in the rear. loved the whiteline. best sway bar for the xb in my opinion.

 

When I searched for sway bars whiteline never came up? What's the diffrences between progress and whiteline? Size? Stiffness? Everytime I get something someone on here mentions something better. Just sold my hotchkis now I am hearing their is a better sway out their. Let me know the whiteline perks. Thanks by the way for replying to my post.

 

i remember early on everyon was trying to progress was better than whitleline. they've got years of experiance making swaybars. reason why they do so well what you'll need is a part # though to find it. i do belive its still a 22mm bar though.

 

What's your take on why you sway towards whiteline? The bars are the same thickness so is it the design? Gotta ask because if its possible I am trying to put the best on and keep it that way. Heard a lot of people talking about progress and how hotchkiss is flimsy. So I sold my hotchkis 2 days after receiving it in the mail. And ordered a progress which hasn't arived yet and now a new bar that I hadn't heard of pops up. Soooo want to know all the good points of your bar. Also what are you running on the front? Sway or strut tower. I started a thread on this topic but no one will respond. Thanks again.

 

you should already have a front sway bar stock from factory which is usually plenty for the front. most of the time adding a strut bar and rear sway bar does plenty to help the suspension.

 

this thread has some pics of the whitline bar

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...er=asc&start=0

 

the fuji has a progress.. now that is performance in handling. i felt it immediately especially on the curves. let me know if i can help you get one.

 

hawaii, thanks for that link that was a bomb thread. by chance do you know were to find a thread on if i should run a strut tower in the front with my progress in the rear? will it help ? or hinder my performance.

 

Hi, just installed TRD RSB ( rear sway bar ) feels Gooooooooooooood

 

most people say it wont make a difference. personally, i am going to get one eventually. i said 'eventually'. not at the top of the list but after i get the suspension mods pretty much done, i will get one.

 

seattleplasma,

I have the DC Sports strut tower bar, Progress rear sway, and I'm lowered 2" with the Eibach sportline springs. I'm also riding on 18 x 7.5 wheels. Considering that, my first-hand experience with the strut tower and rear sway combo is that handling is much improved and more responsive. Alot of that is also attributed to the lowered stance, but the overall feel of the car in "spirited cornering" is solid. Much, much less body roll and more stability. Agree with most folks that the Progress sway is good for daily drivers and the recreational racer. Hope this helps with your decision-making regarding suspension set-up.

 

i hate to interject but i have to make this clear
body roll has nothing to do with handling
"sway-bars" are kinda like Band-aids for improper spring rates
if your spring rates are correct, the amount of stroke will not be reduced and the vehicle will handle better

sway bars only connect the opposite wheels together
so you are limiting stroke with the idea that a visually "flatter" car while cornering is ideal...it isn't
most autoX racers disconnect their sway bars totally

get good coilovers or spring/shocks and you will get everything you want
ya just have to thin of the stroke (and try not too kill it)

thanks....sorry

 

I'll have to respectfully disagree with a few of these statements.

Would you tell me that sudden weight transfer at the top of the car does not hurt handling? Your CG is in a rising motion...this can not be beneficial.

The statement "most" auto-x racers disconnect their swaybars is a misleading statement. Where did you get that stat? Most auto-x racers I've raced with have fully adjustable swaybars. Perhaps most you've raced with do not. I would refrain from generalities on this topic, though, as it seems difficult to get an accurate poll of who does and doesn't run a swaybar in auto-x.

Street performance and "feel" is normally greatly enhanced by aftermarket sway bars, regardless of spring rates. This thread is about a street driven vehicle, from what I can tell. In the real-world, sways are almost always definitely beneficial.

 

valid stuff
i was focusing on lightweight FF vehicles (EF EG Civics, etc..)
a ceartain amount of roll is necessary for weight transfer
most sway bars coupled with aftermarket stiffer springs leads to to much stroke limitation (gotta have stroke)
and can lead to traction loss or wheel lift-off
ideally, correct spring rates will not need a sway bar

i personally hate the way they feel on SOME cars, other cars it has improved the cornering slightly....with the negative of wheels coming off the ground in hard cornering

weight transfer makes/breaks traction
the load on the tires can be maximized only with enough weight on them

just my 2centavos, thanks

 

Agreed. Thanks for the clarification, TXbox. I think between our 3 posts we got the issue squared. Just didn't want anyone that's new to the hobby getting the idea of taking their sways off for normal driving. Otherwise, good input for all-out race machines. Later...