Notices
Scion xA/xB 1st-Gen Suspension & Handling Coilovers, Shocks, Airbags, Swaybars...

Brake Pad And Rotor installation help!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-19-2008 | 08:43 PM
  #1  
JDMxbB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 241
From: .oh.818 Area.taLaGa.
Default Brake Pad And Rotor installation help!

sup guys.

i have a 2006 xb and iam planning to do a Brake job.

meaning replacing the front rotors and the pads.

i've noticed that my rotors are have deep warps and as usual there is the screech sound!

now i wanted to ask if the 2006 xb has ABS on it.

Cuz i don't really recall it having any but i could be wrong.

well if there is'nt do i still have to bleed the brakes?

i previously owned a nissan 240sx and i know the break system of that 240 in the back of my hand. they are all the same way one way or the other.

But i just wanna make sure before i get down and dirty with the box.

if you guys have any pics or other post on this please send. any info. can help thanks!
Old 09-19-2008 | 09:46 PM
  #2  
WhoKilledTheJAMs's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 492
From: West Linda, CA
Default

You do have ABS, and you only need to bleed the brakes if you open up a line (either by disconnecting it, or breaking it), because doing so introduces air into the system. If you don't open a brake line, you don't get air in, thus, you don't need to bleed them.

Pretty much every car made with disk brakes is similar. You might have different wacky fasteners (some older GMs use allen bolts, I've seen torx too, but I can't recall where). Odds are, though, there's nothing you can't do with a sensible ratchet set.

I personally have not looked at the brakes yet, but I know that Toyota doesn't screw around, and generally designs things sensibly.

BTW, what do the rotors and pads costs for these cars?
Old 09-19-2008 | 09:51 PM
  #3  
evosky's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,255
Default

^^^ they will vary based on brand/performance, but rotors typically could run you between 100-200 for a set, and pads will be around 50-100 bucks for a set. mind you we only have fronts, so yeah ...
Old 09-19-2008 | 09:56 PM
  #4  
WhoKilledTheJAMs's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 492
From: West Linda, CA
Default

Originally Posted by evosky
^^^ they will vary based on brand/performance, but rotors typically could run you between 100-200 for a set, and pads will be around 50-100 bucks for a set. mind you we only have fronts, so yeah ...
Holy hell, even for OEM? That's insane.

Of course, last time I did a brake job, it was on the S10 I had in college, where the pads and rotors together cost me something like $60. That wasn't even the cheapest option!
Old 09-19-2008 | 09:59 PM
  #5  
ippskidder's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
1UP Crew
SL Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,138
Default

Just get stoptech slotted rotors, and a pair of EBC green brake pads ^^
Old 09-19-2008 | 11:08 PM
  #6  
JDMxbB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 241
From: .oh.818 Area.taLaGa.
Default

Originally Posted by WhoKilledTheJAMs
You do have ABS, and you only need to bleed the brakes if you open up a line (either by disconnecting it, or breaking it), because doing so introduces air into the system. If you don't open a brake line, you don't get air in, thus, you don't need to bleed them.

Pretty much every car made with disk brakes is similar. You might have different wacky fasteners (some older GMs use allen bolts, I've seen torx too, but I can't recall where). Odds are, though, there's nothing you can't do with a sensible ratchet set.

I personally have not looked at the brakes yet, but I know that Toyota doesn't screw around, and generally designs things sensibly.

BTW, what do the rotors and pads costs for these cars?
so in other words your telling not to worry about anything about bleeding right?

just pop off and unbolt and bolt on and go?!?

thanks for the head's up you guys!!!
Old 09-19-2008 | 11:12 PM
  #7  
WhoKilledTheJAMs's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 492
From: West Linda, CA
Default

Yes, exactly. If you don't disconnect your brake lines, you don't have to bleed them.
Old 09-19-2008 | 11:51 PM
  #8  
JDMxbB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 241
From: .oh.818 Area.taLaGa.
Default

Originally Posted by WhoKilledTheJAMs
Yes, exactly. If you don't disconnect your brake lines, you don't have to bleed them.

thanks fella's...

so what rotors do you guys recommend on purchasing?

Slotted?

Drilled?

Slotted and Drilled?

is there even a difference between the two? cooling?heating?duralbility?

i was actually gonna purchase a pair of stop tech's but then i came across ebay

and i seen some cheaper one's but non-stop techs. in the consideration of the price

are the one's on ebay even worth getting at all?!?
Old 09-20-2008 | 06:26 AM
  #9  
dexter_5000's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 973
From: New Hampshire
Default

you get what you pay for i'd get slotted if you want true performance.
Old 09-20-2008 | 11:44 PM
  #10  
bB384's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
IV ACE
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 600
From: North Hollywood, So. Cal.
Default

Slotted if you use your brakes hard. Cross drilled if you want them to look cool. OEM if you don't care. I personally like to use Slotted rotors because I do a lot of heavy braking at the track.
Old 09-21-2008 | 07:42 PM
  #11  
JSosa's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,125
Default

Slotted rotors are your best choice, but i track race and im still running on my OEM's, not only that ive never re-surfaced them either, and they look VERY beat up. Until they get to the point of being useless they are going to stay. Ive always used Hawk and EBC, but since im not racing in a while i just bought some Axxis, and they work great, ive also heard they last 2 years so even better!.
Old 09-21-2008 | 08:55 PM
  #12  
evosky's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,255
Default

yup slotted is the way to go.
i just put on project mu pads a month ago. great pads, a bit squealy (but that's prob because i didnt put enough brake quiet goo on ....) but very satisfied.
Old 10-01-2008 | 08:26 PM
  #13  
JDMxbB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 241
From: .oh.818 Area.taLaGa.
Default

Originally Posted by WhoKilledTheJAMs
Yes, exactly. If you don't disconnect your brake lines, you don't have to bleed them.
so i was looking up some rotors for the box.

and i came across 2.

StopTech Slotted

Power Slot. Slotted

which is better or what is the difference which do ya'll prefer?
Old 10-01-2008 | 10:24 PM
  #14  
JSosa's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,125
Default

Both are good. Power slot has a cryogenic frozen rotor option which helps the rotor last twice as long. Im not sure if Stop Tech has that option.
Old 10-23-2008 | 05:29 AM
  #15  
bB2NER's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Music City Scions
SL Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 11,808
From: West TN - Land of twisty roads
Default Re: Brake Pad And Rotor installation help!

Originally Posted by JDMxbB
sup guys.

i have a 2006 xb and iam planning to do a Brake job.

meaning replacing the front rotors and the pads.

i've noticed that my rotors are have deep warps and as usual there is the screech sound!

now i wanted to ask if the 2006 xb has ABS on it.

Cuz i don't really recall it having any but i could be wrong.

well if there is'nt do i still have to bleed the brakes?

i previously owned a nissan 240sx and i know the break system of that 240 in the back of my hand. they are all the same way one way or the other.

But i just wanna make sure before i get down and dirty with the box.

if you guys have any pics or other post on this please send. any info. can help thanks!
Yes, you have 4 wheel ABS.
No, you don't need to bleed the brakes unless you change out part of the system or open the system.
I alawys just do new rotors with every pad change just because the thinner the rotors get the faster they will re warp. Not worth spending money having old ones turned.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
TotalChaos
Scion tC 1G Suspension & Handling
5
04-07-2015 09:02 PM
SuBSiN
PPC: Interior / Electronics
1
03-13-2015 04:02 AM
Frustratez
Scion tC 1G Forced Induction
3
02-26-2015 04:03 PM
swrdply400mrelay
Scion tC 1G Drivetrain & Power
2
01-09-2015 01:10 AM
TheRedBox
Scion xA/xB 1st-Gen Drivetrain & Power
31
12-02-2003 04:53 PM



Quick Reply: Brake Pad And Rotor installation help!



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:30 AM.