Just some teaser pics of Matt's car pre-Exposed. Yes, the plates are ugly because they are prototype pieces... though it's not like there's much to prototype since they're so simple.. but it's always good to test first!

 

sick, just plain sick.
now how do you camber the front? Slot the upper strut mounting holes and run a narrowed strut bar?
mad props. m@

 

Maybe I am missing something, but where does the plate go?

 

VERY NICE!!!

 

Here are some more pics taken in SoCal.

These are from the Hotel parking lot.




more pics on the way


Peace,
m@

 

between the rear suspension and the spindle

 

so, what, understeer is cool? where is the front camber?

 

The shims go on the rear hub assemblies, and angle them.

jackmott: understeer can be cool for people who aren't used to oversteer, too much of which will get the uninitiated into trouble. But to answer your question, front camber will come along with the short stroke coilover setup that I've been trying to work on building. Original goal was to rush it for the meet, but it's always a bad idea to rush anything major. Soon...

 

o.k. this might be a stupid question but i can't figure out why you want to put negative camber on your ride. is there a good reason for it? most people want to correct the camber not create camber. or am i missing something about this, this is the reason i am asking.

 

im gonna guess its the type of wheels that matt is running. i got a chance to talk to him(@eltoro) and he told me they are rubbing. get different wheels you say? heck no those are badass works! vive la camber!

 

negative camber if done correctly can help in handling also toeing in or out but at the same time your tread life will be cut in half while driving...daily

 

My question exactly...negative camber is NOT COOOL!

First of all, it gives you less traction, cuz only about half of the tire is on the road.

SECOND, since only half of the tire is on the road, only HALF the tire wears out.

i used to have a 62 bug that was slammed to the ground and if u know anything about swing axle bugs, as soon as u slam them u got more negative camber than u can shake a stick at. and still i ask WHY U WANT TO DO THIS? :?

 

Not my cup of coffee :? :? :?

 

Because they find it cool and exciting looking while sitting still or parked showing there car..driving would suck big nuts....I think no camber or very slight camber looks great....like what BMW does with there cars on the rear wheels

 

The reasoning behind this is to gain tire-to-fender clearance with a wide wheel fitment. (Not to mention the sexy factor) Obviously, its not for everybody.. and that's fine by me. This is pretty conservative (4 degrees) compared to some Japanese tuners who are going as extreme as 12 degrees on their VIP Wagons!!!

Camber is king! (imo)


Peace,
m@

 

No whats king is being able to drive with a correct amount of camber without any worries

 

No beating around the bush: for looks!
Actually, it is true that some negative camber in most applications does help with cornering. And there is a misconception that camber kills tires; it doesn't. Camber coupled with bad toe in or toe out will. Toeing is what causes the car to drag the tire along the ground at an angle contrary to the direction of travel. So if you camber your suspension, but can assure that you don't have extreme amounts of toe in or toe out, then your tires won't wear any quicker than if they were set up normally. They will wear at the same rate, the only difference is that the part of the tire that wears is the inside and not the whole tire. In which case, you can then swap sides and run the same tires twice as long :)

But, the main reason for cambering in these extreme cases is to get the wheel/tire setup to fit under the fenderwells. True, not everyone understands or accepts the look, but the results are usually universally accepted: bad ___ wheel fitment that is super flush with the fenders. I submit:

 

hey VAN'S alive.! r0ck!

 

True... and that's exactly what Van and I are experimenting with. :D

 

Man I have always thought Junction Produce does a beautiful job with there work on there cars....everything is so clean