What's king is doing the work it takes to look nice when parked and to be able to drive the car regardless of camber, whether it be the 1 deg via factory, or 10 deg via aftermarket means. Most of my friends and myself drive various cars with wide wheels and tires, lowered stances, and more-than-stock amounts of camber daily on the streets, and at road race and drift events (hmmm, no drag racing though) and have had no problems for years.
:)

 

Hahaha you said no drag racing....good for you man....Road racing is king hands down....I like being able to enjoy myself for long periods of time not for just a few seconds like drag racing

 

wheres the pic with the precision muffler.com sticker matt? dam it I knew I should have put it on your car on thursday.

 

take your japanese style back to japan.

this is america, the land of camber correctors!

 

Peace,
m@

 

Also... please understand that tire wear is not only caused by excessive camber... Camber is not the worst of you enemies in tire wear.

TOE IS!!!

At the track with the same daily setup and my tire wear is primo!!! Camber 2.5 degrees front, 3.5 degrees rear... 0 toe


Now this car has ~6degrees of camber up front and ~4degrees in the rear and 0 toe up front and rear... tire wear is good all around... yeah it wears more on the inside than out... but you gotta pay to play!!!


I guess it's all a matter of your styling taste... my cup of tea consists of as wide and as pimp as possible with a nice tasty lip!!! Oh and then I'll make them fit!!! Sorry to bomb this thread with s14 pics... but I don't have a Scion yet

 

the camber looks nice. tire wear will be bad, but great for looks.

 

I like the look but definitely not a daily driver. It is Hell of SICK :D

 

thank you for the replys, i was not trying to cause an arguement, i thought there would be a better explanation for doing this, it is not my style but if you like it.... ROLL WITH IT MAN!!

 

i like those wheels on the s14

 

well i followed him most of the way and he still gets a lot of tread on the ground
plus that is the trueJDM VIP LOOK

 

So you want to be american yet you purchased a japanese car that was made from japan, and not in an american factory with american unions. :? I think that what ever you do to your car is your business and what the opr8r does is his. Remember also,he is doing all of his own work with help from van. I think that is admirable enough for an american hard worker. Now viplife get in your japanese car and join me at an american bar for a mexican corona! :D

 

Utterly Disgusting.

 

good to see Van can at least crawl to a PC and post... *chuckle* hope you're feeling 100% again man, we missed you at Exposed..

back on topic, so for the gurus, we've figured out how the camber is adjusted, but what about the dreaded "toe" that is being bandied about? do additional pieces need to be made to help compensate for this?

 

neg. camber is huge in japan... Van is all about JDM.... Much PROPS.

 

Ok, ok, opinions are like .....................yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever your opinion, I think it looks cool. Its not for everyone, otherwise everyone would be doing it. Just like Darrel's lambo doors, some like it, some don't.

In order to fit wider wheels, and not having to do major body work, camber IS the only way to go.

As Bill stated, we followed M@ home from SoCal. It looked like he had more than enuff tire contact on the road.

If you don't like it, that's cool if you state YOUR opinion, but don't hate on M@ for modding HIS way. Come hate on me cuz I get it everyday at work, and I just DON'T CARE what you have to say!

 

And let's go eat some lumpia!!

 

May not be some people's cup of tea but that definitely is mine.

Camber = JDM Vip blingage!!!

Props M@

 

actually you are wrong.

for racing purposes that involve turns, when you enter a corner, the outside tire takes like 90% of the load, and the outside tire will lean out.

if you want the tire to be FLAT when cornering, it needs to be at negative camber when static.

now, you can go overboard naturally. and many people do it not because they race but because they want to look like they do. (not realizing that those of us that DO race see camber gone too far and just laugh at them)

if you are an agressive driver on the road, and take corners quick, -1.5 degrees of camber up front and maybe -1 in the rear can actually make your tire wear more even.

just make sure the toe is set at zero or close to it.


if you regularly autocross or do track days, you might wan't as much as -3 degrees of negative camber.

more than that would be ridiculous and of no performance benefit on most cars.

also keep in mind, as you add negative camber, straightline grip will get worse (both braking and accelerating). Drag racers will do best with 0 camber up front.

 

Whats disgusting?

Its plain to see that a few memebers have not seen the bB in its native home land. The bBs in japan has this trade marked effect on their suspension and if I am not mistaken a lot of memebers have the bB logo on the front of their rides. Now the opr8r has the same emblum but has taken his modding to the next level of JDM style. I thought we wern't a bunch of haters wheres the love? :?

Props Opr8r