those who own D2 coilovers. i just recently bought a set and want to know the pros and cons. took me a week to decide but i over-ruled the tein ss and went for D2's.
i didn't want teins because they didn't go low enough plus adjusting ride height is done on the lower collar that holds the spring. where the D2 adjusts on the lower mount and keep the shock travel the same. which to me is better cuz i don't have to worry about the shock travel and spring rate changing. people say teins are smoother than D2, but don't mind. little scrifice won't hurt if it's true. and that parts don't fit and it makes clanking noises in the rear. so i want to hear from D2 owners and not people who hears or read from other people.

 

Im not quite sure about the whole "parts not fitting in the rear" thing. My stuff fit perfectly fine but I was probably the first person to own D2s on this board.

Im sure these ride a little stiffer than TEINs do but the spring rate is higher.

 

stiffer won't kill me. i'm used to it. since i had cut springs before and riding on bump stops. i don't think anything can the bounce of cut springs. lolz

 

By the way MOST coilovers adjust the same way I think. As you drop the height you still retain the same shock travel. I was looking at the D2's at one point too but after reading some threads in here and elswhere about the insane spring rates,noise,and other problems I decided on TEIN SS. Just gotta save the didgits.

 

Actually... most coil-overs do not retain shock/strut travel. Brian listed some of the few that do in another thread about D2s. The Tein SS do NOT maintain shock/strut travel, or spring rate for that matter.

I think Buddy Club is one of the only brands Brian didn't mention that have the adjustable lower mount.

 

"I was looking at the D2's at one point too but after reading some threads in here and elswhere about the insane spring rates,noise,and other problems I decided on TEIN SS"

i'm not certain about these accusations. people say they make noise and have problem and others don't. so i don't really know whos telling the truth. to me i just think one person had problems and told some one and that person just blew it out of proportion. but one of the dealers here that installs them. when i asked they did say the dampening did give them problems. but to me anything is better than stock.

yea that was one i forgot. i was very interested in Buddy Clubs to. any reviews on them. if i'm not satisfied with my D2 i might just sample out the buddy clubs.

 

I could be wrong but I think Cusco might be the same way as well.

The D2 spring rates are pretty stiff in the front. When ordering them you need to request a 4kg or 3 kg spring for the front. I got mine with a 4kg spring in the front since most JDM coilovers have a similar rating. I couldnt imagine having the 6kg spring they are supposed to come with.

In regards to the clunking noises in the rear of the car: You need to insulate the springs where they meet the cars unibody and torsion par perch. If you dont, you will get clunking. You can use the same stuff that people use on their DF210s or the Goldlines to keep from getting this noise. Electrical tape will also work but wear out eventually and also look ghetto.

 

Well...seems like everyone is selling their D2's for something else. I'm not saying D2's are bad but they just don't seem like coils for the street by what people who have them have been saying.

I was told that the BASICS do not retain shock/strut travel but the SS and beyond do. The TEIN book that I have says they do as well. It has all the different TEIN coilovers in there and all their specs. I don't know for sure so I'm not saying anyone is wrong because I don't even have mine yet to say yay or nay. I just have to go by what I read and am being told.

And why would they not retain their spring rate? Maybe if you try to lower it past the max settings?

So now you got me questioning my decision about the SS. I aint looking for max low just a good adjustable ride and have the option to set the wells almost on the tires

 

I think the Tein SS are a good choice if you are looking for a decent drop, adjustability and a decent "streetable" ride. Just don't expect to be sitting as low as you would on something like D2 or KSport.

I'll also double check my Tein catalogue at home. I am 99% sure that their dampers do not have adjustable mounts. Only adjustable spring perches.

And Brian... I have inquired with one of K Sports resellers and they have been told that K Sport does not recommend lower than a 4kg front spring. Anything lower and it gets "bouncy" according to them. I couldn't imagine something as heavy as the 7kg spring they have spec'd for the Echo and JDM IST. But they couple that 7kg front spring with a 2.5kg rear spring. Seems kind of unbalanced compared to the 6/3 combo they use on the xB.

 

OK... I checked my Tein 2006 Catalogue. It looks like the height adjustment on the Tein SS (Standard and Pillowball Mount) is all in the spring perch. When you move up to the "Flex" dampers you get seperate ride height and preload adjustment similar to D2, etc.

And I am not sure about the Cusco Coil Overs Brian. I have the Cusco 2006 catalogue, and it doesn't even have the Vacanza-Wagon coil overs in it. I would guess they are similar to the Comp-S system. Those do not have independent height and preload adjustment.

 

K sport is smoking something. You could totally go with a 3kg spring if you wanted to.

 

RTon20's.....So how bad will that affect the ride if I drop it about 2"? Will the springs be all loose?

 

If all you want is 2" I seriously wouldn't waste my money on coil overs. Or if coil overs are a must, I would go with Basics over the SS. Save yourself some cash that way.

I am sure that with a 2" +/- drop either of the Tein setups I mentioned would ride just fine.

 

I hear the basics are a bit soft and I am going to be upgrading to 19's. I may go more if I stick to my 18's but Tein's drop rates are right at about 2" max I think. I already have DF210's but I want coilovers. I want the adjustability.

 

to me basics aren't worth it. just wished they didn't stop at ss and went to mono flex. that would of been cherray. cuz i think the mono flex has the lower adjustment. if you wnat the drop its your choice. i just installed my D2 and the ride is pretty smooth. just had to trouble shoot the noise. after that front and rear are tuck and it still smooth.

 

Good reading guys. I have the Tein Basics and have them pretty much as low as possible (4 threads in the front, zero threads in the rear with bottom collar removed). With as many miles that I have, it is getting time to replace them. D2s could very well be the ticket. I like `em low!

 

there are a lot of choices out there. every coilovers will have their flaws. i just finish trouble shooting my D2's now their smooth and no more noise. you can check vividracing .com they have a good variety. many with lower mount adjustments. people will say to adjust coilovers with lower adjustment mounts. you will need to take off the wheel to adjust the ride height. but i did some trial and error to work around it with the wheel still in place.

 

I have this clunking...rather loud and alarming actually. Mine started after having the setup on my car for about a week. I wonder if maybe it's the coils on eachother? I insulated the top perch with the stock rubber grommet, but nothing on the bottom...I find it hard to imagine the lower part of the spring making this much noise...I'm going to jack my car up yet again today and take another look, but any suggestions from someone with experience would be most helpful! Thanks!

 

wish i could help but i don't have any clunking right now. wait, maybe a little in the front, but i think it normal. happened even when i had my tein s tech an stock springs. the only thing i could think of is when you tighten the collar against the spring, you didn't tighten it enough because when you install it the spring hasn't seat properly yet. and when you drive the spring seat and may shorten a bit. so the clunking might be a gap between the spring and collar. but this isfor the front and this is my two cents. as for the rear haven't had problems. for the rear i just chopped up the stock rubber piece that insulates the bottom part of the oem spring and wrapped it around the thread collar. this separates the spring and collar. wish i had a better picture. between the silver collar and spring is the chopped up round rubber insulator.


also when i dropped my car pretty low i had a terrible clunking sound. check out this thread. this might be the problem too.

but if it's for the rear don't need to lookhttps://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...607&highlight=


----tom