Ground Control Installation Questions
#22
i haven't installed mine yet, will do this coming up weekend. i plan on reusign everything but the foam ring. from pics ive seen and G.C. instructions thats what it looks like i should do. haven't had a chance to examine the suspension in the front but it should be like installing springs almost.
#28
Just got finished installing the GC. Holly ____ am I glad I got that $50 electric impact wrench from Pep Boys. Cheap ___, made in China job, but it sure saved my lazy but. Anyways, I have the same front end result as Jackmott. WAY LOW. I tried to figure a 2.25" drop in the front, but got over 2.5" with out any settling in. Tires are about 1/16" under the fender. So, I'm guessing that this will be WAY, WAY too low in a week or two. Perhaps this mysterious black rubber thing has something to do with all of this. If it is about an inch thick then I'm thinkin that maybe some of the GC kits should have this, but don't. Just a guess. I'm-a-callin GC in the a.m. and figure this all out. The rear worked out well (I think). tried for a 2" drop and got a little over 1.25". So hopefully in a week or two it will settle the rest of the way.
For the beginner (like myself) I would recommend a can of WD-40 and a cheap impact wrench. It does wonders. The $ you save by doing it yourself will buy you a tool to use over and over for lots of xB work. The only other car work I have done myself is install a cold air intake and new axle back exhaust and I was able to do this in about 4 hours. So, this is defiantly, in my opinion, a time consuming, but rookie doable project.
For the beginner (like myself) I would recommend a can of WD-40 and a cheap impact wrench. It does wonders. The $ you save by doing it yourself will buy you a tool to use over and over for lots of xB work. The only other car work I have done myself is install a cold air intake and new axle back exhaust and I was able to do this in about 4 hours. So, this is defiantly, in my opinion, a time consuming, but rookie doable project.
#30
way to go. have you driven it yet (probably a stupid question) b/c i would like to know the feel and the dif in stiffness. could you gow all the way down in the back with no problems you think? btw what size wheels+tires are you running?
#31
Originally Posted by Minsk99
.....also, I would definitely recommend printing out the instructions and pictures for "spring installation" from the Tech section of Scion Life. Couldn't have done it without.
#32
Called Ground Control. They weren't necessarily all that helpful. Trial and error is how they said to deal with the hight issue. There is no measurement formula that they would give me to get a desired height excepts to say that each turn is 1/8". When I asked how far to measure up the disk to get a 2" drop he said just to start in the middle and keep adjusting. Oh well. I guess the good news is that they said that because of the "linear" Eibach springs that there is no settling in and what you see is what you get. So that should make screwing around with things a bit easier.
When I asked about the black rubber ring the guy said that "perhaps that was included in some kits and not others". He wasn't even sure exactly what I was talking about. He assured me that if I didn't get one then it is not needed. I guess I'll have to take his word on it.
Driving the car felt good on the flats, especially with the unintentional "racing stance" on the front end. It did rub and bottom out on bumps and forget about meeting hills. My driveway was a challenge. I'm gonna have to lift the front.
I'll post pictures when I finally get this thing right.
When I asked about the black rubber ring the guy said that "perhaps that was included in some kits and not others". He wasn't even sure exactly what I was talking about. He assured me that if I didn't get one then it is not needed. I guess I'll have to take his word on it.
Driving the car felt good on the flats, especially with the unintentional "racing stance" on the front end. It did rub and bottom out on bumps and forget about meeting hills. My driveway was a challenge. I'm gonna have to lift the front.
I'll post pictures when I finally get this thing right.
#33
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,353
From: Holding the detonator
Originally Posted by ncscion
i haven't installed mine yet, will do this coming up weekend. i plan on reusign everything but the foam ring. from pics ive seen and G.C. instructions thats what it looks like i should do. haven't had a chance to examine the suspension in the front but it should be like installing springs almost.
#34
Originally Posted by randode
Originally Posted by ncscion
i haven't installed mine yet, will do this coming up weekend. i plan on reusign everything but the foam ring. from pics ive seen and G.C. instructions thats what it looks like i should do. haven't had a chance to examine the suspension in the front but it should be like installing springs almost.
#36
Despite the fact that I kind of dig the 3" drop I got in the front I decided for the good of my front fender I would lift it up today. All good in the front, but my rear lift is almost 1.5" difference with the adjustment ring set to the exact same place. The area I'm working on is not completely level and I understand that the weight of the car is not exact on both sides, but this difference seems like a lot. Could one side of my rear suspension not have taken right away and will settle? All of the other three corners seem to have taken right away. I drove and braked hard to try and set it a little to no avail. Anyway, I thought that some of you all might have some insights here. BTW, with the new adjustments I have approximately a 2" in the front with no bottoming out problems. The driver side rear is about 6" from the ground and the other rear side is like almost 8". Help.
#37
Originally Posted by Minsk99
Despite the fact that I kind of dig the 3" drop I got in the front I decided for the good of my front fender I would lift it up today. All good in the front, but my rear lift is almost 1.5" difference with the adjustment ring set to the exact same place. The area I'm working on is not completely level and I understand that the weight of the car is not exact on both sides, but this difference seems like a lot. Could one side of my rear suspension not have taken right away and will settle? All of the other three corners seem to have taken right away. I drove and braked hard to try and set it a little to no avail. Anyway, I thought that some of you all might have some insights here. BTW, with the new adjustments I have approximately a 2" in the front with no bottoming out problems. The driver side rear is about 6" from the ground and the other rear side is like almost 8". Help.
#38
I went outside and jumped up and down on the passenger side rear fender with the door open. My neighbors must think I'm nuts. That on top of the fact that I've been talking to my coilovers for the past three days and driving a car on a 45 degree angle. Anyway, it helped a little and things settled almost an inch. But I'm still 0.75" off. Hopefully by tomorrow the shock/spring settles more and it will be only a minor adjustment. I'm still hoping some of you with more experience then I can opine on this.
The handling is lots better with these springs then with stock due to the lowering factor. However, I bet things would rock with a killer set of stiffer / shorter suspension. All said, nice for now (assuming I can get all this adjusting down).
The handling is lots better with these springs then with stock due to the lowering factor. However, I bet things would rock with a killer set of stiffer / shorter suspension. All said, nice for now (assuming I can get all this adjusting down).
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