My Air Ride Set Up - Details and Questions
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My Air Ride Set Up - Details and Questions
I've decided to piece together a kit by myself. I can get exactly what I want that way, and I can also do it all for a lot better price.
I'm leaving some of the smaller stuff out, but here's the basic run down.
Front struts from FBIrides.com - Easy street air lift - $550
Rear Bags- RS52 slam specialties - 75$ ea
Rear bag brackets from fbirides - $85 ( I might go billet from randode - $200)
Compressor - Viair 450 - $210 Shipped from candospecialties.com
Tank - 5 gallon 8 port - $55 from gaugemag
145 pressure switch - $15 from gaugemag
water seperator - $23 from gaugemag
9 switch plexi switchbox - $20
Lots of DOT brass fittings - ~$60 fom suicidedoors
50 ft 3/8" tube - $20 gaugemag
50 ft 1/8" tube - $8 gaugemag
(2) Easystreet dual needle gauges 0-200psi -$29ea ($58 total)
( SMC Valves, 10mm orfice, 3/8" ports w/ brackets- $48 ea ($384 total)
Total is somewhere around $1600.00
Maybe more if I need $200 for Cusco camber plates
I have a couple questions, I posted a thread up on clubxb.com, I'll copy the questions over here to see if any of you guys have answers.
Here's my post at clubxb.com with questions:
These questions will probably be answered easily by anyone here with air ride already installed.
This is my first post on the subject, and I am sort of new to air ride. I'm looking for a little help/insight/answers. I'm working on piecing an air ride system together because there are no built kits on the market that have what I want. I have a few questions though for you experienced people out there.
I plan on using Easy Street Air Struts for the front end. I've heard there are problems with them getting stuck.
1.They can be replaced by warranty if they seize up, but is there a better product on the market yet?
2.If not, best price for Easy Street front struts I've found is $550 at FBI, anyone know of a better deal?
3.I've read about ending up with positive camber after installing the Easy Street front struts. Does it stop the rims from tucking since they are leaning outwards?
4.Do I need to get something like Cusco Camber plates to fix the problem? Or is it just optional?
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A few qestions about rear bags. I'm planning on using RS52 Slam Specialties Bags. I can buy the rear bag brackets from FBI for 85$. But, I was thinking I may go with Randodes new Billet bag brackets that claim to drop another 3/4" in the rear. Does anyone have experience with Randodes brackets? Opinions/thoughts?
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I'm in Iraq right now, FAR FAR away from my scion. So I'm wondering if anyone has pictures of the area underneath the rear bumper. I am planning on installing the air tank/compressor there, and I'm curious to how it will fit. If you have pics with a tank down there, that would be even better, but if not, any pics of underneath the rear end will help.
Does a 5 gallon tank fit underneith the xb? It's 12 1/2" x 20"
I'm going with a Viair 450 Compressor. Any problems with mounting this underneith?
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Exhaust question- I have a magnaflow Gen 2 axleback exhaust from precisionmuffler.com. I noticed in the .pdf walktru of the installation for the rear bags, they removed the muffler/heat shield, then reinstalled it when they are done. For people who are on air, do you have any problems with aftermarket exhaust rubbing/dragging/getting crushed?
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I thank you all in advance for any help you can provide me. I've got around 2 months left here in Iraq. I'm just trying to get the final kinks worked out of this, so I can start ordering parts in time to get home to the states.. Thanks for your help!
-James
I'm leaving some of the smaller stuff out, but here's the basic run down.
Front struts from FBIrides.com - Easy street air lift - $550
Rear Bags- RS52 slam specialties - 75$ ea
Rear bag brackets from fbirides - $85 ( I might go billet from randode - $200)
Compressor - Viair 450 - $210 Shipped from candospecialties.com
Tank - 5 gallon 8 port - $55 from gaugemag
145 pressure switch - $15 from gaugemag
water seperator - $23 from gaugemag
9 switch plexi switchbox - $20
Lots of DOT brass fittings - ~$60 fom suicidedoors
50 ft 3/8" tube - $20 gaugemag
50 ft 1/8" tube - $8 gaugemag
(2) Easystreet dual needle gauges 0-200psi -$29ea ($58 total)
( SMC Valves, 10mm orfice, 3/8" ports w/ brackets- $48 ea ($384 total)
Total is somewhere around $1600.00
Maybe more if I need $200 for Cusco camber plates
I have a couple questions, I posted a thread up on clubxb.com, I'll copy the questions over here to see if any of you guys have answers.
Here's my post at clubxb.com with questions:
These questions will probably be answered easily by anyone here with air ride already installed.
This is my first post on the subject, and I am sort of new to air ride. I'm looking for a little help/insight/answers. I'm working on piecing an air ride system together because there are no built kits on the market that have what I want. I have a few questions though for you experienced people out there.
I plan on using Easy Street Air Struts for the front end. I've heard there are problems with them getting stuck.
1.They can be replaced by warranty if they seize up, but is there a better product on the market yet?
2.If not, best price for Easy Street front struts I've found is $550 at FBI, anyone know of a better deal?
3.I've read about ending up with positive camber after installing the Easy Street front struts. Does it stop the rims from tucking since they are leaning outwards?
4.Do I need to get something like Cusco Camber plates to fix the problem? Or is it just optional?
---------------
A few qestions about rear bags. I'm planning on using RS52 Slam Specialties Bags. I can buy the rear bag brackets from FBI for 85$. But, I was thinking I may go with Randodes new Billet bag brackets that claim to drop another 3/4" in the rear. Does anyone have experience with Randodes brackets? Opinions/thoughts?
-------------------
I'm in Iraq right now, FAR FAR away from my scion. So I'm wondering if anyone has pictures of the area underneath the rear bumper. I am planning on installing the air tank/compressor there, and I'm curious to how it will fit. If you have pics with a tank down there, that would be even better, but if not, any pics of underneath the rear end will help.
Does a 5 gallon tank fit underneith the xb? It's 12 1/2" x 20"
I'm going with a Viair 450 Compressor. Any problems with mounting this underneith?
-----------------
Exhaust question- I have a magnaflow Gen 2 axleback exhaust from precisionmuffler.com. I noticed in the .pdf walktru of the installation for the rear bags, they removed the muffler/heat shield, then reinstalled it when they are done. For people who are on air, do you have any problems with aftermarket exhaust rubbing/dragging/getting crushed?
-----------
I thank you all in advance for any help you can provide me. I've got around 2 months left here in Iraq. I'm just trying to get the final kinks worked out of this, so I can start ordering parts in time to get home to the states.. Thanks for your help!
-James
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I have the everything u have except I'm running a viair 480 and 1/2 valves and line....Don't go with the plexi switch box, I regret mine and so does everybody else....I had everything mounted under my xb with no problems for almost 2 years...
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27300man- Do you have a 3 or 5 gallon tank underneith? Also, how did you mount the viair 480 so it was upright as I heard it needed to be?
Stylis-Thanks for the info on the exhaust.
I made up a diagram last night of what my set up will look like. Anyone with experience in air ride: Can you look this over, and see if everything is correct?
Questions:
1. What fitting is used to connect 1/8" line to the dual needle gauges
2. What fitting is used to connect the 3/8" line to the front air bag struts
3. What fitting is used to connect the 3/8" line to the rear air bags?
4. What size is the line coming out of the Viair 450 compressor. The water
seperator has 3/8" female holes. So, I need a bushing with 3/8" threads on one end
(they go into the water seperator) but what connects to the compressor/what size/m/f?
5. What size fittings on pressure switch? how to connect to 1/2" port on tank?
I of course will be spending a while now trying to find answers to these questions, if you can help out it would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
James
Stylis-Thanks for the info on the exhaust.
I made up a diagram last night of what my set up will look like. Anyone with experience in air ride: Can you look this over, and see if everything is correct?
Questions:
1. What fitting is used to connect 1/8" line to the dual needle gauges
2. What fitting is used to connect the 3/8" line to the front air bag struts
3. What fitting is used to connect the 3/8" line to the rear air bags?
4. What size is the line coming out of the Viair 450 compressor. The water
seperator has 3/8" female holes. So, I need a bushing with 3/8" threads on one end
(they go into the water seperator) but what connects to the compressor/what size/m/f?
5. What size fittings on pressure switch? how to connect to 1/2" port on tank?
I of course will be spending a while now trying to find answers to these questions, if you can help out it would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
James
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okay, good info on the Viair. I read somewhere that they would have cooling issues if not mounted right side up. If you're going strong after 2 years, then no problem.
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Okay...I've gotten a lot of good answers so far.. here's the questions I still have.
1. What fitting is used to connect 1/8" line to the dual needle gauges
2. What fitting is used to connect the 3/8" line to the front air bag struts
3. What fitting is used to connect the 3/8" line to the rear air bags?
4. What size is the line coming out of the Viair 450 compressor. The water
seperator has 3/8" female holes. So, I need a bushing with 3/8" threads on one end
(they go into the water seperator) but what connects to the compressor/what size/m/f?
5. What size fittings on pressure switch? how to connect to 1/2" port on tank?
6.Does anyone have experience with Randodes brackets? Opinions/thoughts?
7.I've read about ending up with positive camber after installing the Easy Street front struts. Does it stop the rims from tucking since they are leaning outwards?
8.Do I need to get something like Cusco Camber plates to fix the problem? Or is it just optional?
NEW QUESTION:
What does "NPT" stand for when looking at fittings? I see it everywhere!
Thanks for all the help guys.
-James
1. What fitting is used to connect 1/8" line to the dual needle gauges
2. What fitting is used to connect the 3/8" line to the front air bag struts
3. What fitting is used to connect the 3/8" line to the rear air bags?
4. What size is the line coming out of the Viair 450 compressor. The water
seperator has 3/8" female holes. So, I need a bushing with 3/8" threads on one end
(they go into the water seperator) but what connects to the compressor/what size/m/f?
5. What size fittings on pressure switch? how to connect to 1/2" port on tank?
6.Does anyone have experience with Randodes brackets? Opinions/thoughts?
7.I've read about ending up with positive camber after installing the Easy Street front struts. Does it stop the rims from tucking since they are leaning outwards?
8.Do I need to get something like Cusco Camber plates to fix the problem? Or is it just optional?
NEW QUESTION:
What does "NPT" stand for when looking at fittings? I see it everywhere!
Thanks for all the help guys.
-James
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For your help here is a link to a site with all the sizes you are going to need.
http://www.parker.com/EAD/displayCat...desc=PRESTOLOK
I use the swivel connectors all over my set-up. Those line lock connectors work great, just slide the hose in and its locked on!
http://www.parker.com/EAD/displayCat...desc=PRESTOLOK
I use the swivel connectors all over my set-up. Those line lock connectors work great, just slide the hose in and its locked on!
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Originally Posted by redneck69
Thanks for the link Stylis. I still don't understand how line connects to these fittings, you just slide a line into the fitting and the fitting locks onto it?
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Awesome. Well that clears that question up. I think my brain is still fogged with 100 different possibilities and questions, and some of them have yet to reach the surface. I've done my homework, but I still have questions that I cannot easily find answers to online, or at least I don't know where to look.
For now, I have no new ones, but if anyone knows a lot about all these fittings, scroll up and check out that diagram. I spent 3 hours drawing it so I could make sure I had every possible fitting I needed when it came time to do the install. Problem is there are a few questions. Just scroll up and read.
Thanks for the good responses guys, without you, my air ride would not be a future possibility.
For now, I have no new ones, but if anyone knows a lot about all these fittings, scroll up and check out that diagram. I spent 3 hours drawing it so I could make sure I had every possible fitting I needed when it came time to do the install. Problem is there are a few questions. Just scroll up and read.
Thanks for the good responses guys, without you, my air ride would not be a future possibility.
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Hit up this website, they have all the best products as well. :D
http://www.universalairsuspension.com/on-road/
Click on "shop online"
http://www.universalairsuspension.com/on-road/
Click on "shop online"
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