Gotta love the price, and our special is still ongoing. :D

 

I love the "Off Road Use Only" warning in the instructions. Who are they kidding?

 

That disclaimer is there to cover OTG's butt. What you have to understand is that OTG will claim zero liability if those parts ever fail. Even if it was 100% that parts fault. They will use that disclaimer in court, to try and prove that their product was never intended for use on the street.

I'm not saying the product will fail, but OTG is playing "better safe than sorry." Now I don't know the company, or their history, but I would guess that these spacers didn't go through very rigorous testing. Without that testing the company wouldn't want it out on the street with all that liability.

Of course, I'm not saying I wouldn't run a set. I'll most likely be ordering some once the wife's Konig Next come in. But, I want to mount them up first to see how much room we've got with the 7.5" width an +45 offset. And I could care less about being flush, or the VIP look. The box will be bagged, and I just need the wheels to tuck nicely.

 

Every company will disclaimer their product.

 

Not to the point of saying that the product is not viable for it's intended use.

 

That disclaimer is quite common. For example, most coilover setups have this in the instructions. Check out Tein's website, and you'll see this disclaimer everywhere in their installation instructions.

They have to say this, because sometimes stupid people do stupid things with aftermarket equipment.

 

kind of like the "HOT COFFEE" label on the McDonald's coffee cups. :D

 

Well, not quite.

The McDonalds disclaimer is a statement of fact prompted by various idiots who couldn't figure out that coffee was, indeed, hot.

The "For Off-Road Use Only" disclaimers are an obvious attempt to circumvent various liabilities and DOT regulations.

Putting that statement on a set of 200W lights is reasonable, as dune buggies can use lights that aren't legal on the street.

To put that statement on a set of spacers intended to widen the track of a car with low skirts front and rear is, well, silly. Yep, like I'm going to go off-roading in my xB...

A more honest disclaimer would read "We don't guarantee that this product is legal or usable for doing what we say it does. If the product busts or you get busted you're on your own, sucker!"

 

Hmm, not quite the same. If it said, "HOT COFFEE, NOT TO BE CONSUMED ORALY". Disclaiming its intended purpose, then i'd same it was the same.

 

umm...yeah. Just trying to make a quick joke. nevermind than,

 

"off-roading" also refers to track use.

But as I stated above, this disclaimer is very common. Nuttin' to worry about.

 

I'm about as likely to take my xB to Willow Springs as I am to take it to Glamis!

I agree that the disclaimer is very common. Doesn't make it right, though.

 

Exactly... nothing to worry about. Until of course the change in the stresses applied to the rear suspension causes a failure in either factory parts or the OTG spacer its self. Which in turn could cause a loss of control, in turn causing your xB to go careening through a guard rail, off a cliff and into a bus full of nuns parked in front of a orphanage. Which in turn causes your xB to burst into flames, igniting the bus and orphanage in the process killing you, your hot girlfriend, the nuns, and all those poor orphans.

But it wasn't OTG's fault... they had a disclaimer.

To be perfectly honest though, I plan on buying a set of the spacers once my wife's wheels come in. My plan is to just steer clear of cliffs, busses, nuns, and orphanages. Can't be to safe you know.

 

-THE DON

 

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...=89223&start=0

 

Hi guys, was just pointed in the direction of this post recently... just to answer some questions, yes our society in america is pretty weak sometimes, especially when it comes to legal litigation. I hate it as much as-or more than-most of you... but it's all something we have to deal with living here. So yes, I was advised to include a disclaimer on the OTG parts. The products have been tested.. I've always made sure to never release anything to the general public until I've had a chance to run it for a period of time first, and now, 2.5 years after the Scions have been released, even the first prototype sets of spacer and camber shims are doing well.

To be honest, if people are extraordinarily concerned about product disclaimers, you should note that every aftermarket product has one, and you technically aren't even supposed to run aftermarket wheels or springs or even air filters and oil filters, etc. because doing so nullifies any implied factory warranties on those components or those related to them (i.e. if you have some 17" non-factory wheels on and nothing else, and your control arm bushings fail, there's a chance they could place the blame on the wheels, even if they weren't the true cause).

This issue does remind me of the annoying opening screen on my nintendo DS that has a safety warning that pops up every time I turn it on. But I can empathize with nintendo, because I'm sure if they didn't have that there, someone somewhere out there will think of a reason to sue them for some reason or another...at least in America.

 

I had the OTG rear shims for awhile, and they worked out well. A great product for those who want flushed out rear wheel w/o having staggered fitment or offsets.

Disclaimers are needed for those who are "sue" happy here in America. Most peeps don't realize that most failures are caused by improper installation or use.

Reputal companies will make outstanding quality products, much like OTG and a few other companies.

"Off-road" use means not for use on public roads.

 

OTG spacers are great additions to your car. I have 76k on my xB and not one single problem with the product. That said, OTG is a business entity that needs to cover itself. Go ask Wendy's about the impact of scammiing lawsuits can have on your business.

 

Van....I back you 100%. Great, simple, effective product. Just what my Box needed.

 

ya know what's awesome? my regular body shop is just down the street from that wendy's, and I used to eat there quite often. out of morbid curiousity I really wanted to go there the day after the finger incident and order some chilli!