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Old 04-02-2007 | 03:18 PM
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I tried to do a search on the forums and can't find much information on replacing the drums on the xB.

When I removed the rim and the locating ring on the hub there are 2 holes that can be used to pull off the drum from the hub assembly. Does anyone know what size bolt I'm suppose to use? I also tired banging the crap out of the drum with a hammer with no luck.

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Old 04-02-2007 | 04:46 PM
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First, (and it may sound funny, but it's a common mistake), make sure the emergency brake is not on. If it is, you aren't going to get anywhere.

You can use those holes for a long screw (like a 12 mm screw... though I don't know the size of the thread), and tighten each one up one at a time - about 1/4 of a turn alternating repeatidly - to kind of push/pull the drum off.

Try to turn the drum. Does it move freely? If it does, but you can't pull it off, then you might have a groove worn in the drum. I can't help you there. I have seen it happen, but it's never happened to me.

The hammer idea is pretty good, but use a rubber mallet instead. You might have the whack the living poop out of it, but it usually does work. Just remember, try and stay away from a real hammer. The amount of whack you give it with a real hammer, could seriously damnage your drums... or more. You would have to be superman to do that kind of harm with a rubber mallet.
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Don't remember the bolt size but you only need one of them. They pop right off easy after threading the bolt into the hole. Just try several different ones till you find the right one. It should start by hand a couple of turns tho.
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Hmm... hopefully somone call tell me what size screw goes into the holes. I whacked the crap out of the drum with a carpenter's hammer and it didn't budge. Now I gave up and bolted the wheel back on and while driving my girl friend is now telling me that its screeching like crazy. All I did was whack on the drum and fiddled with the release tab through the larger inspection hole. *shrug*

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replacing brake shoes? do you have over 100k ?
Old 04-02-2007 | 06:44 PM
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Did you run the self adjusters back in?
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I'm not sure if I ran the self adjusters back in... how do I check that? The car has 53K on the clock and it was making screechy noises from the back once you step on the brakes. My assumption is that the shoes needed to be changed. For $22.00 it's cheap insurance.

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There is a slot on the backing plate that you can put a brake spoon (slotted screwdriver for us poor folks) and work the adjusting star loose. You can tell if it starts to get looser after a few turns, or you can spin the drum, if it gets tighter, you need to turn the star the other way. Run it all the way in to release all the pre-load on the shoes. The slot might have a rubber plug in it to keep out water and small animals.
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Thanks man I'll see what I can do. Is the star a phillips or a flat head screw?

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It is a wheel that you either pust the ears from the top or the bottom to loosen, looking thru the slot, you will be seeing it from the side, but there is a threaded piece that the star runs along that is what puts the preload on the brakes. grab a strong flashlight and get up under the car, you should see the slot at about the 5 oclock position, if the drawing I have is right.
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8mmx1.25 bolt should do the trick
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I found the correct screws. They were 8mm x 1.25 and sold at Home Depot for $0.29 cents each. After replacing the shoes I smeared anti-seize on the hub snout to prevent it from rusting together again.



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Originally Posted by low_down_xb
8mmx1.25 bolt should do the trick
I didn't see your post till the last minute! RATS!

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Old 04-03-2007 | 08:55 PM
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its ok, thats always seems to be my problem, just a little to late
Old 05-24-2007 | 05:23 AM
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hmm,I'll have to try this I'm having the same prob w/ 40k. Seems kinda early...
Old 05-24-2007 | 09:24 AM
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My driver's side rear wheel seems to have a mechanical grinding noise coming from it just driving down the street, could this mean the rear brake is shot. It makes the same noise whether or not I am on the brakes. That would be kinda lame to have to fix it at only 15K miles.
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okay heres a weird one...

what about when im turning to the right or left and then depressing on the brake pedal, my rear brakes seem to be making a grinding noise.....

this is pretty embarassing as im pulling into a driveway or a parking spot.

the dealership said that since its the brakes they probably wont cover it under warranty. its been making that grinding noise since 6mo into the new car. the new car smell hasnt even gone yet.

anyone know anything? a clue?
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try a different dealer...one that cares. How old is your car now?
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3 year 36 bumper to bumper, they HAVE to fix it, not much of a choice to them, if they refuse call toyota directly and report them and tell them what a crappy stealership they are
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Originally Posted by low_down_xb
3 year 36 bumper to bumper, they HAVE to fix it, not much of a choice to them, if they refuse call toyota directly and report them and tell them what a crappy stealership they are
True but the dealers have an out on brakes and other wear out items unless the problem happens soon enough in the life of the vehicle.
Of the few that are having grinding issues from the rear brakes, has anyone pulled off their drums to give them a quick inspection. It might be something simple other than just worn out shoes that could be covered under warranty.


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