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Old 10-19-2006 | 04:32 PM
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hey.....I have been toying with the idea of putting coil overs on my xB. Right now I have DF210's with the TRD shocks/struts. It has a pretty decent ride right now but I would like to be able to haul people in the back and how much better would my ride be with coilovers? Keep in mind I don't want to spend an arm and a leg but what coilover is going to give a smoother ride,performance, lowering under 2", and still be reasonably priced? Like less than 1000.00.

Any thoughts you coilover guys might have would be greatly appreciated.
Old 10-19-2006 | 05:48 PM
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I just went from DF210's and Monroe rear shocks to Progress coil over and Koni adjustable rears very very nice upgrade and I am going to install my Progress RSB this week
Old 10-19-2006 | 06:36 PM
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So how do the progress coilovers compare to like the Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC Coilover?

The price on the Tanabe's seems pretty good but I don't know anything about how any of the coilovers perform compared to my DF210's and TRD package.

Will I get a nicer ride with coilovers? As in everyday driving as well as hard driving? Is it really worth the extra cost? I want to be able to corner on rails but still maintain a nice comfy ride and be able to have some weight in the back without bogigng it down.

I know this sounds lame but I don't know squat about coilovers.
Old 10-20-2006 | 01:57 PM
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I was on Tein Basic Coilovers for about a year and LOVED them. The only change I made was the rear shock. I went with the Monroe SensaTrak, since it was valved a little softer.

I was driving everyday to work (40 miles - one way) into Atlanta (City of PotHoles) and didn't have any problems.

Of course now...I switched to an Air Bag setup....
Old 10-20-2006 | 03:19 PM
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Thats cool.

I wish more people with coilovers would give their opinions. I really want to know if having these is going to give me a better more comfy ride or is it more like it will handle nice but stiff uncomfy ride.
Old 10-20-2006 | 09:54 PM
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It all depends on how deep you pockets are. I'm on Tein SS-P's and I love them. As far as I'm concerned, the ride quality is great and I like the fact that I can adjust the rebound of the dampers according to road conditions or driving styles. The only thing I don't like about them is that they don't go low enough. So in my opinion, If you go coilover, spend the couple of extra dollars and get a set with adjustable dampers. Next on my list is the Tein EDFC.....
Old 10-24-2006 | 09:06 PM
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yeah u cant go wrong with tein, but too bad my pockets arent deep enough like scibox heh
Old 10-27-2006 | 05:04 PM
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I have the Tein super street with the pillow mount. And I love them. I went with these because they are adjustable in height and in softness (hardness). I used to have the tein basics on my eclipse GSX and loved them too. But if I had the money then, I would have gone also with the super streets. You can't go wrong with the teins, imo!
Old 10-27-2006 | 06:06 PM
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I too would like an answer to this question Venom. I asked the question about Monroes vs Coilovers and still don't know if one is better than the other (Money with me is not really an issue. However, ride quality is!!!)
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yeah i hear ya....i am going crazy. There are so many choices in coilovers. Ksport, HKS has the hipermax C and the WG that are both made for scion Xb's and theres Tein ss, D2, JIC and all are in the same price range and all are adjustable. Except for the hypermax but all the rest are. I just want to make sure that if I spend the money on coilovers that my car is not going to ride like its on rocks or be all bouncy. I want a better ride than factory but still able to corner on rails and be adjustable to get at least a 2" drop. Unlike the TRD crap I spent a bunch of money on.
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if you want your car to HANDLE get the ksports or d2's.
Old 10-30-2006 | 03:44 PM
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I do want my car to "handle" BUT....I am mostly looking for good drop more than 2" if desired and nice ride at the same time. I don't want it so stiff that cruising the street feels like rocks.
Old 10-30-2006 | 05:04 PM
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tein basic is garbage, after riding dumped they will blow out. you can always pick up the sustec pro's for under 1k they drop 3" comfortably.

http://www.hopupracing.com/suspension62.html
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if you want a comfy low ride go with a 3 inch drop on progress. but you car won't handle. it's all about sacrifices what will you sacrifice? lol
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I think I am going to go with the tein super street. They will still give me a 2" drop (or more) and should be really good on the street. Plus you can get the EDFC to cotrol the dampening from inside the car. The D2 have been getting crap reviews. Everyone says wrenches dont fit right, loud popping in the back from the springs and missing parts. After all they are made in taiwan and a knock off of some JIC model I guesss.
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well i have the ksports which I thought were exact d2 copies. apparently theyre upgraded d2's cause my wrenches fit fine , I get no popping at all , no parts are missing , and yeah.
Old 10-31-2006 | 03:40 PM
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D2 and Ksport have no relation to each other. The good thing about Ksports is they are US made, so if you have a warranty issue the turn around is within a week. Cant do that with Tein or D2.

Ive met the owner of Ksport and he goes to all the local shows here in Arizona, where the company is based. His customer service, passion for his products is unsurpassed. I would rock them ANY day. If you are interested in Ksports, contact http://www.elementmotorsport.com/ talk to Chris, hes my brother. They are the largest Ksport dealer in the US and can get PHAT discounts.
Old 10-31-2006 | 11:49 PM
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If you have issues with Tein coilovers, you can send them to TEIN USA which is located in Downey, CA. Depending on the issue, they can fully rebuild your system if need be. They can also revalve them if you want a lower drop, but the ride quality is going to suffer.

As far as monroe shocks are concerned, if you lower your car 3 inches, you will be pretty much bottoming out. Monroes aren't a "high performance" shock. Monroe shocks are used for replacing your old worn out "factory" shocks. They really aren't valved for lowered cars or high spring rates. Thats why if you go coilover you will have the appropriate shock for whatever it is you're trying to accomplish. With the Monroes, you will get a decent ride just as long as you aren't extremely low or carrying a whole lot of weight.

All in all, with coilovers the ride is going to be a lot stiffer, but you have the ability to lower or raise if you have to. Depending on application you will be able to adjust the dampers according to driving style. If you decide to go with the Monroes, you'd be better off keeping the setup you already have. The TRD shocks are made for lowered cars and are a little stiffer than the Monroes.
Old 11-01-2006 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Venom_Xb
I think I am going to go with the tein super street. They will still give me a 2" drop (or more) and should be really good on the street. Plus you can get the EDFC to cotrol the dampening from inside the car. The D2 have been getting crap reviews. Everyone says wrenches dont fit right, loud popping in the back from the springs and missing parts. After all they are made in taiwan and a knock off of some JIC model I guesss.
I was probably the first person to get D2s on this site.

Ive never had a wrench not fit, the popping noise you hear is the perch smacking the spring if you dont have the tubing that comes on the coil installed.

The thing with D2s is this, you should run them with 17s or bigger. The ride better that way. When I have my 15" Works on, the car rides alot crappier than when I have 17s on it. The spring rates on the D2s are twice that of the Teins. Teins ride soft and slushy on the xB. If you want handling, I wouldnt bother.
Old 11-01-2006 | 01:14 PM
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Ksports... ...well worth the cash!


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