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#61
Originally Posted by sciondrgn
What I dont understand is why do people think a Reverse 4 link is unsafe or dangerous..
That myth was busted along time ago.
That myth was busted along time ago.
Originally Posted by sciondrgn
Cando even sells a bolt on reverse 4 link for minis
Originally Posted by sciondrgn
You can easily get huge amounts of lift off this set up and maintain one awesome ride quality with it..
Originally Posted by sciondrgn
I mean for real just because some people cant get it to work years ago doesnt mean it has to be bad for everyone.
Originally Posted by sciondrgn
If the install is done right it will perform and continue to and my old s10 has proven that so dont tell me its the "wrong way to do it"
#62
Originally Posted by crayonBOX
that you said, try draining your tank with your bags fully filled (use the drain/aux valve) if your bags go flat too, then your solenoids leak. (just a little, and under quite a bit of 'reverse' pressure.
#63
Originally Posted by sciondrgn
Heres a question then instead of ranting on how Ive done my truck in the past why dont you actually put some useful information in there and explain how you would have done it? Not once have you said "the correct" way as you put it.
We all know that any form of modified suspension is going outside of the factory specs of a vehicle and we all take a chance regardless of which way its done
We all know that any form of modified suspension is going outside of the factory specs of a vehicle and we all take a chance regardless of which way its done
#64
Originally Posted by RTon20s
Originally Posted by sciondrgn
Heres a question then instead of ranting on how Ive done my truck in the past why dont you actually put some useful information in there and explain how you would have done it? Not once have you said "the correct" way as you put it.
We all know that any form of modified suspension is going outside of the factory specs of a vehicle and we all take a chance regardless of which way its done
We all know that any form of modified suspension is going outside of the factory specs of a vehicle and we all take a chance regardless of which way its done
I dont mind constructive comments and your opinion is just that.. but how about in the future instead of just saying .. "Thats not right" how about actually back up your statements first then we can discuss that later versus being so short winded in your post.
And spider you can lock this thread if you want. Im personally done with it
Thanks everyone with there opinions on the 4vs8 valves setups and what everyone is running
#65
Rather than trying to put all the information into my own words, and taking forever to do so, I'll provide a simple link.
The company listed below is probably the leading company in the world when it comes to automotive pneumatic suspension. I could continue to provide link after link to back up my statements, but this one does it just fine in terms that everyone can understand.
http://www.ridetech.com/techarticles...nktechinfo.asp
The company listed below is probably the leading company in the world when it comes to automotive pneumatic suspension. I could continue to provide link after link to back up my statements, but this one does it just fine in terms that everyone can understand.
http://www.ridetech.com/techarticles...nktechinfo.asp
#66
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i run 4 valves in the front but only 2 in the back. i only have the 4 in front so i can adjust the sides. everything works fine and i have no warping or anything.
#67
Originally Posted by rolex87
i run 4 valves in the front but only 2 in the back. i only have the 4 in front so i can adjust the sides. everything works fine and i have no warping or anything.
#68
this is not my opinion it is a fact, if you loss pressure on the tank and do not have a inline check valve between the tank and valves(which i now have and works great) the bags will deflate because these electric solienoid valves are pressure sealed from the inlet side.
this happened to me when i air mine up and then released the air from the tank so i could install my water seperator.
just thought i would warn you because if you lost all your tank pressure without a check valve installed for what ever reason while driving, it could turn out bad for you fenders.
this happened to me when i air mine up and then released the air from the tank so i could install my water seperator.
just thought i would warn you because if you lost all your tank pressure without a check valve installed for what ever reason while driving, it could turn out bad for you fenders.
#69
Originally Posted by scion1616
this is not my opinion it is a fact, if you loss pressure on the tank and do not have a inline check valve between the tank and valves(which i now have and works great) the bags will deflate because these electric solienoid valves are pressure sealed from the inlet side.
this happened to me when i air mine up and then released the air from the tank so i could install my water seperator.
just thought i would warn you because if you lost all your tank pressure without a check valve installed for what ever reason while driving, it could turn out bad for you fenders.
this happened to me when i air mine up and then released the air from the tank so i could install my water seperator.
just thought i would warn you because if you lost all your tank pressure without a check valve installed for what ever reason while driving, it could turn out bad for you fenders.
#70
Originally Posted by scion1616
this is not my opinion it is a fact, if you loss pressure on the tank and do not have a inline check valve between the tank and valves(which i now have and works great) the bags will deflate because these electric solienoid valves are pressure sealed from the inlet side.
this happened to me when i air mine up and then released the air from the tank so i could install my water seperator.
just thought i would warn you because if you lost all your tank pressure without a check valve installed for what ever reason while driving, it could turn out bad for you fenders.
this happened to me when i air mine up and then released the air from the tank so i could install my water seperator.
just thought i would warn you because if you lost all your tank pressure without a check valve installed for what ever reason while driving, it could turn out bad for you fenders.
#71
Originally Posted by Spider13
Originally Posted by scion1616
this is not my opinion it is a fact, if you loss pressure on the tank and do not have a inline check valve between the tank and valves(which i now have and works great) the bags will deflate because these electric solienoid valves are pressure sealed from the inlet side.
this happened to me when i air mine up and then released the air from the tank so i could install my water seperator.
just thought i would warn you because if you lost all your tank pressure without a check valve installed for what ever reason while driving, it could turn out bad for you fenders.
this happened to me when i air mine up and then released the air from the tank so i could install my water seperator.
just thought i would warn you because if you lost all your tank pressure without a check valve installed for what ever reason while driving, it could turn out bad for you fenders.
#73
If I can humbly add my 2c....
I believe there is no difference between number of valves 4 vs 8 for the problem stated. I dont think its a cut corner thing either, if the installation is done right it may be just the owner's preference knowing that he/she will not have as much control over the system. If its just and up and down system with one manual valve installed right then it should be fine. The suspension overall should level out if all the bags still have some air, if some bags do not have air then you obviously have more resistance and that may or may not cause more damage. Im not saying its not the air bags that are causing the problem, Im saying its probably not a difference between 4-8 valves and 8 valves could also cause the same problem if 4-valves can.
I think the problem could be due to a number of things, maybe its the speed in which you pump and dump, I think the "action" could cause the problem not just having the equipment. I would think if your pump and dump action is slower that you could reduce body flex if there is a potential to cause any. Here is my main question of bags vs coilovers, when you had the coilovers you said you didnt notice the misalignment, was the airbags at that same exact coilover height from a dumped position still show the misalignment?
Also some might want to think out of the "box"
Did the car get into an accident? Was the car ever loaded beyond its capacity? Is there dynamat in the doors? Is there speakers? Has the door ever been removed? Has anyone over extended the doors? Has anyone slammed the doors? Was the car of jack stands for any reason for an extended amount of time, maybe on jackstands in an uneven manner or uneven ground?
I still say its a good question, but I just wanted to take the time and comment that it could be a number of things.
Peace.
I believe there is no difference between number of valves 4 vs 8 for the problem stated. I dont think its a cut corner thing either, if the installation is done right it may be just the owner's preference knowing that he/she will not have as much control over the system. If its just and up and down system with one manual valve installed right then it should be fine. The suspension overall should level out if all the bags still have some air, if some bags do not have air then you obviously have more resistance and that may or may not cause more damage. Im not saying its not the air bags that are causing the problem, Im saying its probably not a difference between 4-8 valves and 8 valves could also cause the same problem if 4-valves can.
I think the problem could be due to a number of things, maybe its the speed in which you pump and dump, I think the "action" could cause the problem not just having the equipment. I would think if your pump and dump action is slower that you could reduce body flex if there is a potential to cause any. Here is my main question of bags vs coilovers, when you had the coilovers you said you didnt notice the misalignment, was the airbags at that same exact coilover height from a dumped position still show the misalignment?
Also some might want to think out of the "box"
Did the car get into an accident? Was the car ever loaded beyond its capacity? Is there dynamat in the doors? Is there speakers? Has the door ever been removed? Has anyone over extended the doors? Has anyone slammed the doors? Was the car of jack stands for any reason for an extended amount of time, maybe on jackstands in an uneven manner or uneven ground?
I still say its a good question, but I just wanted to take the time and comment that it could be a number of things.
Peace.
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