Buyers Guide: Scion xA/xB Wheels
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WHEEL FITMENT INFORMATION
It is assumed that these figures will work on both the xA and the xB, but most are from xB owner's personal comments.
WHEEL SIZE . . OFFSET RANGE . . TIRE SIZES . . . COMMENTS
19x8.0 . . . . . . . 35 (Front)25(Rear)215/35/19 . . . . Rubs Slightly XB(shim kit)DenZinz
19x8.0 . . . . . . . 40 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-19 . . . . Rubs under hard cornering
19x7.5 . . . . . . . 45 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-19 . . . . Rear needs 5mm spacer: DGTLLVR
19x7.5 . . . . . . . 42 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-19 . . . . No rubbing, rear mud flap trimmed: gregp909
19x7.0 . . . . . . . 42 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-19 . . . . Rolled fenders & hammered wheelwell: matchbox
18x7.0 . . . . . . . 28-32 . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-18 . . . .foxSCION "no rubbing"
18x7.0 . . . . . . . 40 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 235/35-18 . . . .K4kas no rubbing xB
18x7.5 . . . . . . . 35 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-18 . . . .Front tire rubs at full lock
18x7.5 . . . . . . . 35-42 . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-18 . . . .Silkywilson et42
18x7.5 . . . . . . . 42(Front)(35)Rear 225/35-18 . . . .Oneslowxa 2"drop tanabe sustec pro
18x8.0 . . . . . . . 28 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225/35-18
18x8.5 . . . . . . . 28 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225/35-18
18x9.0 . . . . . . . 31 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225/40-18 . . . .rampagesd
17X7.0 . . . . . . . 20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 205/40-17 . . . .quadoptix xB
17x7.0 . . . . . . . 28-42 . . . . . . . . . . 205/40-17
17x7.0 . . . . . . . 40 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . . .TheScionicMan
17x7.0 . . . . . . . 38 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/45-17 . . . . xB stock
17x7.5 . . . . . . . 30-40 . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . .
17x7.5 . . . . . . . 40 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . .3mm Spacers CBSIMONSEZ xB
17x7.5 . . . . . . . 38 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . .Stock xA Leinad
17x8.5 . . . . . . . 16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . . Front doesn't rub: Oper8r
17x9.0 . . . . . . . 17 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . . Rear rollled fenders: Oper8r
16x7.0 . . . . . . . 33 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 205/55-16 . . . . Front rubs slightly in front: oj411
16x7.0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 205/55-16 . . . . No rubs: The Zeeness
16X7.0 . . . . . . . 35 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 205/45-16 . . . . Stock xB: Pushytop
16x7.0 . . . . . . . 25-35 . . . . . . . . . . 205/40-16
16x7.5 . . . . . . . 38-40 . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-16
15x6.5 . . . . . . 35 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 185/60R15 or 185/65R15 (xB and bB stock sizes)
15x7.0 . . . . . . 38 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 185/60-15 . . . . Stock Size xB
15x8.0 . . . . . . 18(Rear)23(Front) 205/60/15 2" ground control Minsk99 xB
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MISC INFORMATION
Scion xA and Scion xB Specifications:
Bolt Pattern
4x100
Center Bore
54.1mm
Nut Size
M12x1.5
Stock Wheels/Tires
15"x6" +38 offset / 185/60R15 xB 185/60R15 xA 185/65R15 bB
37 lbs per wheel & tire
Alloy wheel: 16.7 lbs
Other Vehicles With Interchangable Wheels
Toyota Celica (1988-1989)
Toyota Corolla (1988-2001)
Toyota Corolla Wagon (1988-1996)
Toyota Echo
Toyota MR2 (1986-1990)
Toyota Paseo
Toyota Tercel (1989-1998)
Toyota MR2 Spyder (2000-)
Scion tC Specifications:
Bolt Pattern
5x100
Center Bore
54.1mm
Nut Size
M12x1.5
Stock Wheels/Tires
17"x7.0" +45 offset / 215/45-17
?? lbs per set
Other Vehicles With Interchangable Wheels
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LINKS SECTION
Great page that shows images of the bB with different wheels:
http://www.nsktokyo.co.jp/takataka/b...ap/index1.html
Page that lists all types of wheel information:
http://www.wheelspecs.com/main/index.php
Great tire fitment information:
http://www.saturnperformance.com/tech/tiresize/
http://gs.tolan-hoechst.com/tirecalc.htm - with wheel width
Places that you can buy (or window shop for) wheels:
www.tirerack.com
www.discounttiredirect.com
www.1010tires.com
www.gruppe-s.com/Wheels/wheelspage.htm
www.machiii.net/machiii/html/wheels.html
www.racerwheel.com
www.wheelwarehouse.com
www.savastire.com
www.Wheelguyz.com
www.tliperformance.com
www.dragonwheels.com
www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com
www.speedandstyle.com
www.davinwheels.com
www.tenkafubu.com
www.falkentire.com/wheel_select.htm
Recommended Offset from Fabolous Company - Posted By The_Saint
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24726
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Originally Posted by Prototype_xB
(I figured I'd post this up to help anyone that may be new to wheels+tires.)
A lot of people can be confused when it comes to the sizes of tires. P###/##R-##
It'll take 1 minute for me to explain to you :)
The best way to explain is to use an example. For this example, I'll use my tire size:
P215/35R-18 ( simplified as--> 215/35-18 )
P-----> The P denotes the tire as being a Passenger vehicle tire
215--> The 215 denotes the measurement of the WIDTH of the tire
35-->35 denotes the Height-to-Width Ratio. That aspect ratio of height to width here in our example is 35 The height of the tire (aka--> Profile or sidewall) is 35% the width of the tire. So if the width of the tire was 100mm, then the height of the tire would be 35mm. Or if the width was 200mm, the height of the sidewall, or profile, would be 70mm, and so on.
R---> R identifies Radial Construction.
18---> The last number, in our case 18, is the diameter from bead to bead on our tire. The 18 denotes that this particular tire fits, and ONLY fits an 18" rim
Simple huh? :P
Next I'll explain the speed designation of tires: The speed rating of a tire is really nothing more than an expression of how well the tire will withstand the temperatures of high speed. Also, this does not necessarily mean that a high speed rated tire will perform better at low speeds than a lower rated tire.
Lower rated tires are usually made from a harder rubber and last longer than softer high speed rated tires. So my advice is that if you don't plan on going 100+mph then don't buy such a tire, they'll only wear more quickly!
Speed ratings:
F / 50mph
G / 56mph
J / 62mph
K / 68mph
L / 75mph
M / 81mph
N / 87mph
P / 93mph
Q / 100mph
R / 106mph
S / 112mph
T / 118mph
U / 124mph
H / 130mph
V / 149mph
Z / 149+mph
A lot of people can be confused when it comes to the sizes of tires. P###/##R-##
It'll take 1 minute for me to explain to you :)
The best way to explain is to use an example. For this example, I'll use my tire size:
P215/35R-18 ( simplified as--> 215/35-18 )
P-----> The P denotes the tire as being a Passenger vehicle tire
215--> The 215 denotes the measurement of the WIDTH of the tire
35-->35 denotes the Height-to-Width Ratio. That aspect ratio of height to width here in our example is 35 The height of the tire (aka--> Profile or sidewall) is 35% the width of the tire. So if the width of the tire was 100mm, then the height of the tire would be 35mm. Or if the width was 200mm, the height of the sidewall, or profile, would be 70mm, and so on.
R---> R identifies Radial Construction.
18---> The last number, in our case 18, is the diameter from bead to bead on our tire. The 18 denotes that this particular tire fits, and ONLY fits an 18" rim
Simple huh? :P
Next I'll explain the speed designation of tires: The speed rating of a tire is really nothing more than an expression of how well the tire will withstand the temperatures of high speed. Also, this does not necessarily mean that a high speed rated tire will perform better at low speeds than a lower rated tire.
Lower rated tires are usually made from a harder rubber and last longer than softer high speed rated tires. So my advice is that if you don't plan on going 100+mph then don't buy such a tire, they'll only wear more quickly!
Speed ratings:
F / 50mph
G / 56mph
J / 62mph
K / 68mph
L / 75mph
M / 81mph
N / 87mph
P / 93mph
Q / 100mph
R / 106mph
S / 112mph
T / 118mph
U / 124mph
H / 130mph
V / 149mph
Z / 149+mph
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The 4×100 bolt pattern is fairly common, however, the steel wheel has a Toyota centerbore (54.1 mm) so most likely you will be limited to Scion xA, Scion xB, Toyota Celica (1988-1989), Toyota Corolla (1988-2001), Toyota Corolla Wagon (1988-1996), Toyota Echo, Toyota MR2 (1986-1990), Toyota Paseo, Toyota Tercel (1989-1998), Toyota MR2 Spyder (2000-).
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If you are running 195/60R15 on a Scion, you are already taller than factory spec (185/60R15). if you run a 225/45R17 on a Scion, you will be 5.19% taller than factory setting. This is even taller than the 215/35R19 tires for the 19" application. There's a good chance you're going to see rubbing issues, plus at 50mph, you will be going 52.6mph and when your odometer shows 1000 miles, you will actually have traveled 948.09 miles. It's recommended to stay within 3% of OE sizing if you want to keep the speedometer and odometer accurate. I'd go 215/40R17. If you'd like a bit more meat, then perhaps 225/40R17 which is only 1.46% larger than stock.
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42 Offset is really conservative. The wheels will definately tuck under the fenders. Of course, it will all depend on the width of the wheel. There's no way to tell fitment without knowing the width... 42 offset on a 7" wide wheel versus 42 offset on a 8½" wheel will give you different results. I know if you run a 7½" width, ET35 is pretty much flush in the front, and for the rear, ET20-25 would probably be ideal.
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Hey ChickenAdobo, (man now I'm hungry... lol), I actually work in the industry and we had some 17×7.5 ET35 Antera wheels that I test fitted to my xB. Then I went underneath to see how much more room I had on the inside of the wheel before hitting the suspension and how much more room I had on the outside to make it flush with the fenders. I also have a chart that compares different offsets with different wheel widths to give me an idea of what will work, and what probably wouldn't.
The 15×7 ET35 will fit no problem. The wheels should sit pretty close to how the factory wheels sit. If you could find an ET25 wheel with a 7" width it would fill the wheel well nicely.
I don't recommend using a 225/60R15 tire on a Scion... way too big. You would be increasing overall diameter to almost 8% over OE height. When we fit aftermarket wheels on vehicles here we won't go over 3% to keep odometer.speedometer measurements within reason. You would be increasing total wheel height by almost 2" and when your odometer reads 1,000 miles you would be at 920 actual miles. You would be 3/4" taller than the 19" (215/35R19) guys, plus the tire would be wider as well. Unless you put a serious lift kit on the box, I'd use a different tire. If you don't want to stick with the factory 185/60R15, I'd probably do 205/55R15 on a 7" wide rim. A 225 tire on a 7" wheel will have the tire ballooning out a bit and may look funny.
The 15×7 ET35 will fit no problem. The wheels should sit pretty close to how the factory wheels sit. If you could find an ET25 wheel with a 7" width it would fill the wheel well nicely.
I don't recommend using a 225/60R15 tire on a Scion... way too big. You would be increasing overall diameter to almost 8% over OE height. When we fit aftermarket wheels on vehicles here we won't go over 3% to keep odometer.speedometer measurements within reason. You would be increasing total wheel height by almost 2" and when your odometer reads 1,000 miles you would be at 920 actual miles. You would be 3/4" taller than the 19" (215/35R19) guys, plus the tire would be wider as well. Unless you put a serious lift kit on the box, I'd use a different tire. If you don't want to stick with the factory 185/60R15, I'd probably do 205/55R15 on a 7" wide rim. A 225 tire on a 7" wheel will have the tire ballooning out a bit and may look funny.
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Both the Scion and the Honda Accord use 12mm lug nuts with a 1.5 pitch. By "a couple of mm off", what are you referring to? What kind of wheels do you have? It would be best to check with the manufacturer / distributor of that brand of wheel to see if the hardware is the same on their toyota and honda fitments. Another thing to keep in mind is that the 4-lug Honda Accord is a 4×114.3 bolt pattern and the Scion is a 4×100 bolt pattern so unless your wheel has a dual bolt pattern drilled in (8 lug holes on the wheel all together, 4×100 & 4×114.3), it will not fit. Lastly, the Accord has a centerbore of 64.1mm. If the wheel you currently have is hubcentric to the Accord, then the hole in the center of the wheel should have a diameter of 64.1mm. Since the Scion has a centerbore of 54.1mm, you will need a center ring that has an outer diameter of 64.1mm and an inner diameter of 54.1mm (IF your wheel is hubcentric to the Accord). If your wheel is NOT hubcentric to the Accord (the hole in your wheel is not 64.1mm in diameter), then the center ring you will need has an inner diameter of 54.1mm and an outer diameter to match the hole in the wheel. Once again, it would be best to check with the manufacturer or distributor of your brand wheel to see what hardware they have for proper fitment.
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Originally Posted by Dylan
I don't know much about how to select wheels and tires. My dealer recommended I get Kosei K-1 Racing Wheels and Yokohama AVS ES100 205/55VR15 high performance tires for the summer. Can anyone tell me whether this was a good recommendation? Any pros and cons to these choices?
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Okay, those non-newbie car enthusiasts are probably saying "duh!" but for those of you who never really paid much attention to modifications and such on cars like me, believe me when I say how significant a difference tires can make.
If the change from all-season to summer performance tires is any indication of benefits, I am DEFINITELY going to get dedicated winter tires for next winter. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be many winter tires on the market that fit our cars--at least that's what the tire shop I went to said.
Does anyone know about or can recommend a good winter tire for the xB?
Thanks,
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OK guys, the info posted here is great... and normally that'd be all the info I'd want... BUT I've fallen in LOVE with a set of wheels that are discontinued.... I've only found them in 2 places that have any left... one has a set of 16's in a silver finish that'll work... BUT one place has in stock 17's in a polished finish that I'd much rather have, they are 17 x 7.5 with an offset of 45... I'm really stupid when it comes to wheels and I'll admit it. I see the fitment chart showing a max offset of 40... Can I use spacers to compensate? I really have my heart set on these rims and want to see if there is anyway to make this happen..
any and all help appreciated.
any and all help appreciated.
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just curious as to when do you know when you need spacers? also, i understood that they go between your wheel and tire but have seen some put behind the rear hub is that right? one more question what does it mean to roll the fenders? thanks a bunch....
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Originally Posted by _666_jesus_999_
just curious as to when do you know when you need spacers? also, i understood that they go between your wheel and tire but have seen some put behind the rear hub is that right? one more question what does it mean to roll the fenders? thanks a bunch.... ![LOL](https://www.scionlife.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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only time you need spacers
A) if you want your wheels flush with the rear fender
B) if you are having rubbing issue in there rear suspension part(you bought the wrong offset wheels or wheel design)
rolling fenders
pushing up on the fender lip so it will give a little more room for your wheel
should be done professionally in my opinion
heres an article on rolling fenders
http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=131
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The spacer behind the spindle is designed for camber.
It is an uneven wedge if you will.
People here use them for camber to get wider wheels to fit without to much modification.
Not my style but it accomplishes what was desired.
It is an uneven wedge if you will.
People here use them for camber to get wider wheels to fit without to much modification.
Not my style but it accomplishes what was desired.
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Ok, I guess its about time I posted my 411. I have a TCM xB on TEIN coilovers. They are set at 2.5 inch drop up front, and 2.0 inch drop in the rear. I'm running 17x7.5 Buddy Club wheels w/ +42 offset. The tires are 215/40-17 Nitto Neo-Gens, and I am also running a 3 mm spacer in the rear. No problems at this time and I have put almost 2k miles on this set-up.
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I guess I should also post my setup since mine is probably the less common one.
Set-up back in June of 2k3:
Tires: 225x40x18 on all 4 corners
wheels: 18x7.5 42mm
Springs: Spy 2" drop lowering Springs
Spacers: 5mm in the rear only (to bring the wheel out more)
Rubbing in the rear: Yes
How to fix: Cut the small piece of plastic from the inner splash guard where the tire
is rubbing. NO MORE RUBBING after this simple fix.
Rubbing in the front: Yes
How to fix: cutting a small piece of plastic from the inner plastic fender where the tire is rubbing, but with a 2" drop, you will still rub agains the fastener that holds the bumper to the fender. Switched to 215x35x18 and no more rubbing.
Current Setup @ 28.5K miles:
Tires: 215x40x18 int Front 225x40x18s in the back:
wheels: 18x7.5 42mm
Springs: Spy 2" drop lowering Springs
Spacers: 5mm in the rear only (to bring the wheel out more)
I love this setup over the previous setup because the 215x40x18s is more forgiving when hitting bumps vs. 215x35x18s (more tire between the road and the rim). I also like the subtle wheel staggered look.
Rubbing in the Front: Yes, only when turning the wheel all the way left/right.
Rubbing in the back: None.
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Set-up back in June of 2k3:
Tires: 225x40x18 on all 4 corners
wheels: 18x7.5 42mm
Springs: Spy 2" drop lowering Springs
Spacers: 5mm in the rear only (to bring the wheel out more)
Rubbing in the rear: Yes
How to fix: Cut the small piece of plastic from the inner splash guard where the tire
is rubbing. NO MORE RUBBING after this simple fix.
Rubbing in the front: Yes
How to fix: cutting a small piece of plastic from the inner plastic fender where the tire is rubbing, but with a 2" drop, you will still rub agains the fastener that holds the bumper to the fender. Switched to 215x35x18 and no more rubbing.
Current Setup @ 28.5K miles:
Tires: 215x40x18 int Front 225x40x18s in the back:
wheels: 18x7.5 42mm
Springs: Spy 2" drop lowering Springs
Spacers: 5mm in the rear only (to bring the wheel out more)
I love this setup over the previous setup because the 215x40x18s is more forgiving when hitting bumps vs. 215x35x18s (more tire between the road and the rim). I also like the subtle wheel staggered look.
Rubbing in the Front: Yes, only when turning the wheel all the way left/right.
Rubbing in the back: None.
I hope this helps
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215x45x17....45 offset
front fine no rubbing
rear touches rear arm. ground down manufacturing circle on arm. no rubbing.
I know..its sky high...just got it yesterday
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front fine no rubbing
rear touches rear arm. ground down manufacturing circle on arm. no rubbing.
I know..its sky high...just got it yesterday
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