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Old 06-11-2005 | 11:30 PM
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I got some new tires from sears, i wanted perilli (website said authorized dealer) but they said they couldn't get em! So i had to go with my second choice, the Kumho ECSTA ASX tires. I did a search but couldn't find out much about em on this website.... wondering how good of a tire they are? how much do they compare with the perilli pzero nero m & s?
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Old 06-11-2005 | 11:47 PM
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Check out the reviews (and "overviews") on TireRack.com

I'm lookin' at some yoko's
Old 06-12-2005 | 12:00 AM
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Old 06-12-2005 | 04:44 AM
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They are far better than the stock Re92 and quite a bit better than the stock Yoko's, I had them on my stock wheels for a few days before I got my Enkei's then sold them to my buddy for his new tC, then I sold his stock wheels with Yokos to my daughter(ok, really just gave them to her, lol) for her Matrix that used to be my 250 whp turbo project car.

We seen to trade things around alot here, lol!

Anyway, those are some very nice tires, not truely a full all season but pass the requirement for traction tires when the weather requires them and are great in the rain and handle quite nicely besides being very quiet.

Good move and alot less money than the NeroZero.

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Old 06-12-2005 | 04:45 AM
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Kumhos are a great value - you get alot of tire for the dollar with them!
Old 06-12-2005 | 05:44 AM
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They are good tires, but if you are willing to spend a little more look into Yokohama ES100s
Old 06-12-2005 | 06:18 AM
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i want prada spec-2's but my perellis still got a bit of life left
Old 06-12-2005 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DynomyteSW
i want prada spec-2's but my perellis still got a bit of life left
the spec-2 has good overall ratings. If Kumho, the Escta 712 is good one!
Old 06-12-2005 | 12:13 PM
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i heard kumho's are good
Old 06-12-2005 | 04:01 PM
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I have ran a set of Kumho tires on at least one of my rigs for the last 5 years, mostly 712's, recently the ASX on the stock wheels I just traded to my buddy and I really liked them. I ran 235/40/17 Ecsta V700's on my SCCA SM class turbo Matrix and they lasted over 5k miles including a couple of hundred autocross runs, many burn outs at drag races, always driving them really hard, that is amazing tread wear for a DOT race t ire. They rode very sooth and quietly as well as very stable and predictable at any speed and were actually decent in light rain.

Picking tires involves severaly things to consider, dry traction, wet traction, resistance to hydroplane, wether or not you need all seasons(AXS are a very high performance all season with decent snow performance but not exceptional in it, I know) You have to set your priorities as to what is important to you, if you will have a winter set of tires or tires/wheels, etc.

Our summer street, track day and autocross rain tires, are the new Hankook R-S2, they are exceptionally good but a bit louder than the ASX. Our other set of wheels will have super soft DOT slicks and a third set will have some fairly aggressive all seasons.

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What about the Avon Tech M550?
This one is the best rated in this size...Is it worth the extra $ ??
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With the excellent quality of the Korean tire manf thier price points make it hard for me to justify spending more money on tires than I do. Like the Hankooks I am running now, they were a close #2 in a German road test, barely beaten by Michelins that were nearly double the price. When the tires perform that closely to each other the driver is going to be far more critical than brand of tires;)

FYI, the R-S2 has a tread wear rating of 200 so they are a bit soft, which of course is great for somebodly like me. I do not drive my car alot, mainly to events so may have them shaved. Two national event wins on the books in SCCA autocross that I know of so far have been taken with them against the venerable Falcon 215, that is saying a great deal!!! If you travel the national tour you are very serious about your tires and it is a small part of the budget for this use so you buy the best you can find;)

Of course we have to see how the new 615 Falcon does now.

Bottom line is this, study all you can find on the tires you are interested in and look at the overall price performance picture, you are going to be just fine on lower (not cheap) tires in nearly every case.

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thanks for all ya'lls help
Old 06-14-2005 | 09:25 PM
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I have Ecsta ASX's on my street wheels (225/45/18) and love them. Far superior to the stock Potenza's. They stick very well in the rain. They are an all around great tire for a good price.

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...Of course we have to see how the new 615 Falcon does now...
I have the new Falken Azenis RT-615 (225/45/17) on my stock wheels if those are the ones you're referring to. I use them solely for AutoX's. They are pretty sticky tires, and are perfect for STS. Unfortunately, I never had the old Azenis to compare them to. They helped me drop a couple seconds over stock tires.
Old 06-14-2005 | 09:29 PM
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Cool, the new RT-615 is what I was referring to and they are really great for your needs, not an all season by any means though

Rick
Old 06-15-2005 | 10:13 AM
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i heard kuhmos are pretty good. Used in Xcross a lot.. It's a koean made tire I heard
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