Mother Of All Sportmax 002 Threads
#62
195/50, D2 coilovers, shaved inner fender lip in the back, -5 GARSON Camber, scrubs only going over 80mph and hitting low spots on the fwy with peeps in the back.
you gotta pay to play.
cassidy and i had these since the beginning when bbist brought them out.
i have the cfff's but opted not to rockem.
if you want pics, click on my sig.
peace.
you gotta pay to play.
cassidy and i had these since the beginning when bbist brought them out.
i have the cfff's but opted not to rockem.
if you want pics, click on my sig.
peace.
#63
I'd just roll the rear fenders to be safe and use a 195/45/15, or 205/50/15. You're saving a boatload buying these wheels, so it shouldn't be much of a surprise that you'll be spending some money elsewhere to make it suitable for daily use.
As you know, Sportmax just came out with the 501, which is like the 002 except it's six-spoke and +15 offset. We shouldn't have to roll fenders with this one.
I still have no idea what I want.
As you know, Sportmax just came out with the 501, which is like the 002 except it's six-spoke and +15 offset. We shouldn't have to roll fenders with this one.
I still have no idea what I want.
#67
Your car looks nice. What suspension set up are you running?
Actually None at all.... the fenders were not only rolled but pulled!!
Originally Posted by HotRun_bB
Originally Posted by jpauletteUSAF
Wow, that's an awesome looking ride.
I can only imagine the rubbing issues you're having...
I can only imagine the rubbing issues you're having...
#68
Originally Posted by HotRun_bB
Originally Posted by jpauletteUSAF
Wow, that's an awesome looking ride.
I can only imagine the rubbing issues you're having...
I can only imagine the rubbing issues you're having...
not to change the subject, but I really like those ScionFX visors you've got. Did they install easily?
#69
Originally Posted by ChampionJeep
Your car looks nice. What suspension set up are you running?
Actually None at all.... the fenders were not only rolled but pulled!!
Originally Posted by HotRun_bB
Originally Posted by jpauletteUSAF
Wow, that's an awesome looking ride.
I can only imagine the rubbing issues you're having...
I can only imagine the rubbing issues you're having...
#71
How does the car handle with the cut coil up front? How much of a drop did it give you? That does look damn good
I thought about doing it when I get my df210's.
Im running Df210's on stock shocks but cut a coil in the front, and also running OBX camber bolts in both front strut mounts so it would be hella flush instead of the usual poking out in the front look 002's give you.[/quote]
I thought about doing it when I get my df210's.
Im running Df210's on stock shocks but cut a coil in the front, and also running OBX camber bolts in both front strut mounts so it would be hella flush instead of the usual poking out in the front look 002's give you.[/quote]
#73
How many fingers can you fit between the tire and the fender and how did you cut the coil? I really like that look.
Originally Posted by HotRun_bB
actually cutting a coil in the front didnt change any handling aspect at all. the car still has a great spring rate and now my drop is level.
#77
I would like to thank everyone who posted info in this thread, b/c with this help I finally got mine put on, I still need to tweak the pass rear fender some more and I will be good for very little rub if any.
#78
I was really considering running the DF/002 setup but it seems every single other person in the world is running it so I dont know now. Definitely nothing baller status for it though, my GF has a bad habit of running into things.
On a side note, here are answers to some questions I see people asking:
This may be a new concept to some but lowering most any vehicle creates negative camber. Negative camber coupled with hipari tire stretching is the key to sick offsets. 15x8 +0 is by NO means too wide/low to fit on this vehicle correctly, Ive seen it done many times. All it takes is some drop, some camber, and some stretch. Heres a good example, dunno whos box this is but if it is yours speak up:
2" drop and camber plates. Notice the mild stretch and fairly heavy camber out back. This sexy look is easy to get with minimal extra mods.
Rolling and pulling fenders is easy to do yourself, there are 8365789369785 write ups about it (look on Freshalloy, zilvia.net, ziptied.com (sorry I am a Nissan guy)). Basically you hook this contraption to your hub:
Adjust the ***** slowly while working the wheel back and forth. flattening out the inside of your fender to make more room for your tire under compression:
Even a few millimeters will make a big difference. You can also use a baseball bat with your tire still on or a rubber mallet but this takes some practice so I wouldnt recommend it to anyone that is new to the game. ANything that flattens that inside lip will do the trick.
Pulling your fenders is another option, and just from a cursory glance on my xB a mild pull (5-10mm) would be possible pretty easily without much chance of paint flake. A heatgun is a must, so if you are pulling fenders, use it. The trick is to go REALLLY slow with it, rushing the job causes paint chips and quarterpanel dents.
Some examples of pulled fenders:
Nissan S13
Stock:
Mild Pull:
Crazy Pull:
Nissan S14:
Stock (my car ):
Crazy Pull (no paint/body work):
Anyways you get the point. Im not saying you should pull your fenders 40mm but dont be afraid to roll them on the inside, it is not hard.
Tire stretch. Some think it is rediculous, some think its zOMG so JDN tyte, so whichever way you roll just know it makes running low offset wheels MUCH easier. Pluss, it looks cool In Japan it is called Hipari tire, and is taken to WAY extreme meaures that I dont suggest you try.
Heres some examples of hipari tire fitment working well. Hella flush:
Aaaaaannnd heres an example of what to avoid. No amount of luvvin will fix this guy's issues :
Hipari tire is safe to an extent. Running a 195 on an 8" wheel is fine, but a stock 185 is pushing the limits of safety. a 185-60 (stock tire) is REALLY pushing the limits. A good rule of thumb is 15-20mm, or about 3/4" per side is safe for tire stretching. For 002's it seems 195-55 is the best bet. Good stretch, smaller profile so less sidewall to rub, and they look good. No rubber band look and not drag slicks either.
As far as 501's go, +15 is a great offset for the front but kinda weak in the rear. Id run a 10+5mm spacer in the back to make it a 0 offset, so it fits like a 002 would out back without mad Wrangler effect in the front.
ANyways, thats about it until next time. Sorry for the helaciously long post but Ive been brewing over this for awhile now.
On a side note, here are answers to some questions I see people asking:
This may be a new concept to some but lowering most any vehicle creates negative camber. Negative camber coupled with hipari tire stretching is the key to sick offsets. 15x8 +0 is by NO means too wide/low to fit on this vehicle correctly, Ive seen it done many times. All it takes is some drop, some camber, and some stretch. Heres a good example, dunno whos box this is but if it is yours speak up:
2" drop and camber plates. Notice the mild stretch and fairly heavy camber out back. This sexy look is easy to get with minimal extra mods.
Rolling and pulling fenders is easy to do yourself, there are 8365789369785 write ups about it (look on Freshalloy, zilvia.net, ziptied.com (sorry I am a Nissan guy)). Basically you hook this contraption to your hub:
Adjust the ***** slowly while working the wheel back and forth. flattening out the inside of your fender to make more room for your tire under compression:
Even a few millimeters will make a big difference. You can also use a baseball bat with your tire still on or a rubber mallet but this takes some practice so I wouldnt recommend it to anyone that is new to the game. ANything that flattens that inside lip will do the trick.
Pulling your fenders is another option, and just from a cursory glance on my xB a mild pull (5-10mm) would be possible pretty easily without much chance of paint flake. A heatgun is a must, so if you are pulling fenders, use it. The trick is to go REALLLY slow with it, rushing the job causes paint chips and quarterpanel dents.
Some examples of pulled fenders:
Nissan S13
Stock:
Mild Pull:
Crazy Pull:
Nissan S14:
Stock (my car ):
Crazy Pull (no paint/body work):
Anyways you get the point. Im not saying you should pull your fenders 40mm but dont be afraid to roll them on the inside, it is not hard.
Tire stretch. Some think it is rediculous, some think its zOMG so JDN tyte, so whichever way you roll just know it makes running low offset wheels MUCH easier. Pluss, it looks cool In Japan it is called Hipari tire, and is taken to WAY extreme meaures that I dont suggest you try.
Heres some examples of hipari tire fitment working well. Hella flush:
Aaaaaannnd heres an example of what to avoid. No amount of luvvin will fix this guy's issues :
Hipari tire is safe to an extent. Running a 195 on an 8" wheel is fine, but a stock 185 is pushing the limits of safety. a 185-60 (stock tire) is REALLY pushing the limits. A good rule of thumb is 15-20mm, or about 3/4" per side is safe for tire stretching. For 002's it seems 195-55 is the best bet. Good stretch, smaller profile so less sidewall to rub, and they look good. No rubber band look and not drag slicks either.
As far as 501's go, +15 is a great offset for the front but kinda weak in the rear. Id run a 10+5mm spacer in the back to make it a 0 offset, so it fits like a 002 would out back without mad Wrangler effect in the front.
ANyways, thats about it until next time. Sorry for the helaciously long post but Ive been brewing over this for awhile now.