Rion

1. Well, we already drive cars that we have to explain to everyone so we must not mind explaining.

2. Thats open for debate, at least for me (I'm agnostic)

Rion

phinz

Are you sure he never married? There's a huge chunk of Jesus' life that is missing...

matt_a

It's not really a huge chunk. There's no real record from late childhood until he began his ministry at around 30 yrs old. I'm pretty sure if Jesus had married, the Bible would have at least mentioned his wife. Besides, he views the church as his bride.

Rion

Well one thing is for sure.

If Jesus were on Earth today he would drive an xB.

phinz

30 years of life for a guy that lived to be about 37 or so is a *huge* chunk.

The Bible was compiled by people who had an interest in making Jesus seem as divine as possible. There are books that have been omitted, and text that has been intentionally held back. Take a look at the Apocrypha if you want a small example.

Don't point at the Bible, especially the King James Version, as the end-all-be-all to Christianity. It's flawed. Very flawed.

mfbenson

The fact that it is even open to debate should prove that there are gaps in the records. For instance, the "James Box" that turned up a few years ago (that has since been proven to be a hoax - a very good hoax, but still a hoax) had an inscription on it that said "James, Brother of Jesus". Serious theologians that have spent their whole lives studying this sort of thing said it was a genuine article.

YET, nowhere in the bible does it say that Jesus had a brother. The explanation was that James was the descendent of Joseph and Mary, but that would make him Jesus' half-brother, not full brother. (That, or Joseph was the father of Jesus, not God, but that possibility was not considered.)

Anyhow, at the end of the day what we know of Jesus comes down to being an article of faith. If we decide to believe the Bible, or what we are taught about it, and if we decide to include some "extra facts" along with it are really questions that everyone has to answer themselves. Telling someone "the way it was" does nothing constructive.

And boy has this thread wandered off of club names...

I always thought "Sciontasy" would be cool for a Scion tC club.

phinz

Remember, also, that "virgin" in ancient terms didn't necessarily always mean "hasn't had intercourse." It also meant "young." Top this off with the fact that the Bible you are reading was compiled for a king and is not done by "divine inspiration" and you have plenty of room for argument.

Basing belief on blind faith does nothing constructive. To truly understand what it is you believe, you must question everything you believe. Just keep in mind that at one time the Church said the earth was flat. People were killed for saying it was round.

bBTOY

You have never heard that it is ~Possible~ that the " HOLY GRAIL " might not be the chalis , BUT instead it might be the DIRECT descendents of CHRIST , who then became the KINGS and QUEENS of EUROPE . Just Maybe.....

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