Subcompact Culture

I have 28,000 miles on my xB and noticed that the clutch seemed to be slipping. I brought it into the dealer today, and they concluded that indeed the clutch was slipping, but they have denied me warranty coverage.

Before I call Toyota, I wanted to see how many people had issues with their clutch since they've owned the car. My car rarely saw RPM higher than 4,500, but when downwhifting I recently noticed the problem. The Toyota tech said he could make it slip in every gear. However, when it came down to it, Toyota denied warranty coverage.

It should be known that I've been driving nothing but manual transmissons since 1994 and have only had to replace a clutch once at 90,000 miles. Our Civic has 108,000 miles on the original clutch and it holds fine.

If you could answer this poll and respond with your milage as well, that'd be great. I'd love to hear about any xB-related clutch replacement and warranty stories, too.

pooder

10K miles on my box.

NO slippage ever.

Been driving sticks since '68.

Metro273

This item (clutch disk) is considered a "wear and tear" item. At the dealership I work at, we replace the clutch once, under the basic, factory warranty. NOT ALL dealerships will do this...
To answer your question, I have about 22K miles and no slippage yet...

Subcompact Culture

Although I understand that a clutch is a wear-and-tear item, it shouldn't wear out this quickly -- especially the way I drive it (e.g. not agressively).

hotbox05

yeah xb's with their extra weight and aggressive gearing are a bad match for the leftover echo clutch disc ( but more importantly pressure plate)

foxtrot685

i actually have an xa with 12,000 miles on it and im worried that its slipping... not sure yet. i only drive mine agressively when merging onto highways ( i let it rev a little higher before shifting) but thats it, im no street racer especially since im completely stock as far as the powertrain goes

hotbox05

if you kinda pop the clutch as if trying to break traction aka skreech tires while shifting into second and the rpm goes up but your tires don't lose traction it's gone. it'll start slipping only when cold then get worse and worse as time passes.




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foxtrot685

so itll slip when the clutch is cold? thats bad?

foxtrot685

im actually starting to miss my '99 kia sportage now...

hotbox05

wow that's sad. just get an upgraded clutch kit and bam new and improved

foxtrot685

yes... let me pull one off of my clutch tree i have growing here and grab $1200 off the money tree thats right next to it. its as easy as 1 - 2 - 3! lmao j/k

clutches are very expensive (the labor not the actual part as always). being that i purchased the car for reliability purposes, which means more than just starting when i turn the key, replacing the clutch at 12k miles is not good for me and fails the higher expectations i had of this vehicle. selling the xa and picking up my kia from maryland dosent sound like a bad plan. never had any problems out of it and my parents bought it off of the showroom floor in 98. no rods shooting through the oilpan, no clutch slip, no radio automatically switching channels when its below 36 degrees in the cab, just a simple city runabout 4x4

hotbox05

umm labor should be 450.00 at most. a clutch kit is 450 at most. i got a SPEC stage 2+ for 349 and then got it installed at my buddies shop for 225. he'd normally charge 350 .

foxtrot685

thats awful cheap! sounds like a great hook up deal!
quote i got was 1200 from toyota replacing the clutch with another factory clutch

i got another quote for 895 replacing the clutch with a stage 1 with labor included from a racing shop store place ( i have no idea who or what they are all i saw on the ad was "we order and install clutches!", lol)

hotbox05

yeah dealerships rape peopel left and right.

foxtrot685

so i c, lol

do u like your stage 2 clutch?

hotbox05

it's cool. gets a lil tiresome in stop and go traffic but it grips well has a good feel to it. oh and you shoulkd definately get the stainless clutch line as well

foxtrot685

what does that do?
is it simular to the stainless brake line?

hell, knowing my ill wake up one morning and go "450 bucks for install?!?! no way... ill install it myself"... as long as teh directions give enough info to allow me to get a mental pic i can do it

hotbox05

same concept. takes out flex . makes a more direct pedal to clutch engagement and disengagement.

ha ha . no instructions other than "use clutch alignment tool # xx " and then some torque specs for the pressure plate.

foxtrot685

crap...

hotbox05

i've done motor swaps , turbo kits , full suspension , body work , stereo , all sorts of car shiot. and unless it's rwd or the motor is all ready out I won't touch a clutch .