Notices
Scion xB 1st-Gen Owners Lounge
First Generation 2004-2006.5 [NCP31]

Cruise Control - spoke with Scion

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-25-2006 | 04:26 PM
  #1  
mphil804's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8
Default Cruise Control - spoke with Scion

This is just an offshoot of an earlier topic - basically, I asked if Scion offered factory cruise anywhere at all and I got this response:

Thank you for contacting Scion.
We appreciate the opportunity to address your inquiry.

Scion does not offer Cruise Control as a Scion approved accessory. Some regions, which are independently owned distributors of Scion offer an aftermarket accessory that is installed at the dealership but Scion does not recommend the installation of this component as this would be considered a modification.

Your Scion should not be modified with non-genuine Scion products. Modification with such products could affect your vehicle's performance, safety or durability, and may even violate governmental regulations. Also remember that any damage or performance problems resulting from modifications may not be covered under warranty.


That's fairly disappointing.
Old 01-26-2006 | 12:11 AM
  #2  
Garry's Avatar
Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 90
From: Connecticut
Default

As you probably know by now, 100's of owners (myself included) on this forum have the Rostra Cruise Control - dealer installed. I think a dealer would be hard-pressed to void any part of the power train warranty due to equipment they installed.
Old 01-26-2006 | 01:28 AM
  #3  
Spr0ket's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 495
From: Just to the right of Hell
Default

Oh no! You can buy non-genuine Scion products? What is this world coming to?! Just call to the various scion dealerships (not email) and see who has one to offer installed/delivered with warranty coverage. When you find one, ask them who installs it, the service center or if it's outside of the dealership.
Old 01-26-2006 | 04:19 AM
  #4  
rdclark's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 466
From: Suburban Philadelphia
Default

I agree that a dealer couldn't void the warranty on a car in which they installed aftermarket parts.

But what's to stop a different dealer from not honoring the warranty on, say, your fuel pump or your transmission, if there was an aftermarket CC installed?

What if you're on a road trip or move away from the region where you bought your car?

RichC
Old 01-26-2006 | 04:43 AM
  #5  
Spr0ket's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 495
From: Just to the right of Hell
Default

The window sticker never lies.
Old 01-26-2006 | 06:07 AM
  #6  
cherryBox's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scinergy
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,157
From: ScinergyCO
Default

spoke to scion? sounds more like a form-letter handjob. don't roll over - join the other rostrafarians here - there are plenty of stealerships that will do it.
Old 01-26-2006 | 08:06 AM
  #7  
Tomas's Avatar
Admin Emeritus

10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 14,570
From: University Place, WA
Default

You realize, of course, that the following is the standard boilerplate answer Scion provides any time you ask about ANY non-Scion part - even if it is as simple as a Trico windshield wiper blade...

Scion does not offer [INSERT PRODUCT NAME HERE] as a Scion approved accessory. Some regions, which are independently owned distributors of Scion offer an aftermarket accessory that is installed at the dealership but Scion does not recommend the installation of this component as this would be considered a modification.

Your Scion should not be modified with non-genuine Scion products. Modification with such products could affect your vehicle's performance, safety or durability, and may even violate governmental regulations. Also remember that any damage or performance problems resulting from modifications may not be covered under warranty.
Most any manufacturer will respond in the same manner.

Keep in mind that Scion is ONLY addressing the *Scion* warranty, not the *dealer* or *aftermarket manufacturer* warranty. My dealer provides a warranty on all work they do, and most part manufacturers provide a warranty for their parts.

They ARE, however, separate from the warranty from *Scion* which only warrants that the car was put together correctly with good quality parts when it left the factory, and Scion approved accessories installed by qualified installers...[/b]
Old 01-26-2006 | 02:38 PM
  #8  
mamagoose's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 106
Default

Wait... (totally auto-ignorant here)... the fact that the dealer put cruise control on my box potentially voided my scion warranty? "IF" it causes some sort of malfunction somewhere else? That stinks. Wouldn't the dealer be liable for fixing any problems then?
Old 01-26-2006 | 03:14 PM
  #9  
Subcompact Culture's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,974
From: Portland, OR
Default

The warranty is NOT void.

If a part failed because of the cruise control, they might not warranty that part. However, I'd have a hard time thinking of something the cruise control could screw up.

I also have the cruise control and can say with certainty that I am not at all concerened about warranty issues.
Old 01-26-2006 | 03:29 PM
  #10  
RudyT's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 160
From: Seattle, WA
Default Re: Cruise Control - spoke with Scion

Tomas,
This could be a pretty fun game....the whole "INSERT PRODUCT NAME HERE"...take a look.

Originally Posted by mphil804
Scion does not offer "A SCION LIFE WINDOW DECAL" as a Scion approved accessory. Some regions, which are independently owned distributors of Scion offer an aftermarket accessory that is installed at the dealership but Scion does not recommend the installation of this component as this would be considered a modification.

Your Scion should not be modified with non-genuine Scion products. Modification with such products could affect your vehicle's performance, safety or durability, and may even violate governmental regulations. Also remember that any damage or performance problems resulting from modifications may not be covered under warranty.
Old 01-26-2006 | 03:30 PM
  #11  
t2BDetermined's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 118
From: Cleveland, Ohio
Default

I wouldn't worry if you have a cruise control on your box or xA. As Tom stated, this is just their prefab response if anyone inquires about putting "aftermarket" parts on their Scion vehicle. You'd get the same response if you asked about leather, turbo, etc.

You are all just fine.....Rostra makes a great product and there is no reason to worry.
Old 01-26-2006 | 04:23 PM
  #12  
gjpjr84's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,521
From: Dallas/Fort Worth
Default

they denied that they offered it "anywhere at all" how does the tC have it standard then? and when I build an xB off the Scion website, speed control is an option?
Old 01-26-2006 | 05:15 PM
  #13  
catuned's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 31
From: SACRAMENTO
Default

They are just trying to cover them selfs in case of anything.
Old 01-26-2006 | 05:39 PM
  #14  
t2BDetermined's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 118
From: Cleveland, Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by gjpjr84
they denied that they offered it "anywhere at all" how does the tC have it standard then? and when I build an xB off the Scion website, speed control is an option?
Scion was denying they offer it on the xB/xA at all as an option/accessory from Scion. When you build a Scion online, some regions that are independently operated (i.e. the Southeast Region) offer it as an accessory. When you put in your zip code in the "build your scion" portion of the Web site, if your zip is in a region where it is offered as an accessory, it will allow you to add it to the car when you are building it. To my knowledge, the cruise control you are seeing is not a Scion/Toyota made accessory. In the regions where it is offered, I'm pretty sure it is an aftermarket unit (i.e. Rostra) that the region has decided to list under the accessory section of their version of the Web site. Make sense?
Old 01-26-2006 | 06:06 PM
  #15  
sprslug_182's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 731
Default

Scion does not offer "Hookers with Double-D's" as a Scion approved accessory. Some regions, which are independently owned distributors of Scion offer an aftermarket accessory that is installed at the dealership but Scion does not recommend the installation of this component as this would be considered a modification.

Your Scion should not be modified with non-genuine Scion products. Modification with such products could affect your vehicle's performance, safety or durability, and may even violate governmental regulations. Also remember that any damage or performance problems resulting from modifications may not be covered under warranty.
Old 01-26-2006 | 08:40 PM
  #16  
snow197's Avatar
Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 40
From: Salt Lake City, UT
Default

please tell me why scion just cant make this change an offer it as an option!!!! what a bunch of dip ____s
Old 01-26-2006 | 09:01 PM
  #17  
hotbox05's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
Team N.V.S.
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 13,706
From: Sacramento, CA / Nor*Cal
Default

cause they don't care. theyre not going to start dfoing all sorts of new and improvedf stuff less than a year before the car is gone.
Old 01-27-2006 | 01:15 AM
  #18  
sprslug_182's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 731
Default

I can't find the exact page it is on, but on the Scion Corporate page, they have the results of a survey conducted throughout the United States. It was a random survey and included those that would be most marketable to the vehicles. This survey included things that people wanted the most in the vehicles and of those, they took about the 30 most desirable items, options, accessories or whathaveyou. This is why the cruise control was never installed in the vehicles. There were more people who wanted cup holders and storage over those who wanted cruise control, as it gets too difficult in traffic as many are exposed to every day(ie. big cities such as seattle, phoenix, l.a., detroit, san antonio, las vegas, and I could go on).
Old 01-27-2006 | 01:30 AM
  #19  
Sciond's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
Fail, INC
Club One

SL Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 14,929
From: What's in your Box...
Default

you people need to read the moss magnusonn act.........
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hydrogen
Maintenance & Car Care
2
07-14-2020 10:41 PM
MrGeneralJ
Regional - North
2
01-17-2015 06:50 PM
OTOC
Regional - Pacific Northwest
0
01-03-2015 12:05 AM
ScionLife Editor
Scion News Forum
1
12-07-2014 12:58 AM
Risen_Son_Racing
Scion tC 1G Owners Lounge
25
05-06-2005 03:31 PM




All times are GMT. The time now is 09:18 AM.