Trade-in advice. I already know I am a moron.
#21
Originally Posted by snowromance
the worse gas mileage in a manual is still wrong and if any COULD be better than the other it would be Manual getting better gas mileage than an automatic.
#22
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Originally Posted by snowromance
Originally Posted by bB2NER
Originally Posted by THE_DON
1. The dealer will not give you anything close to KBB.
2. You will have to pay tax + license on the new car, so expect to spend more than $1000 for the difference.
3. If I were you, I'd keep my Auto, cuz the manual xB gets worse gas mileage, and you have no idea how well the previous owner took care of it.
-THE DON
2. You will have to pay tax + license on the new car, so expect to spend more than $1000 for the difference.
3. If I were you, I'd keep my Auto, cuz the manual xB gets worse gas mileage, and you have no idea how well the previous owner took care of it.
-THE DON
How you drive has very little with the fact that the clutch components are not up to the task. There are plenty of people that drove their xBs gentle and they got slightly over 40K before the clutch problems showed up. It's nice to think if you drive it nice and easy that you will get "normal" clutch life. IT'S NOT GONNA happen in this case, PERIOD!!!!!! The pressure plate springs are NOT strong enough to keep the disk from slipping!
It gets worse mileage because of the final gearing!
#23
i stand corrected on the clutch life thing
but the gas mileage in auto vs manual im sorry but that is not true of getting better gas mileage in a automatic. the very little added rpms from the final drive in a manual vs auto is the ONLY thing the auto has a chance at having better gas mileage with. you are forgetting about the time not spent at 70+ mph. if you filled up your box, got straight on the freeway, and drove a full tank down to nothin at 70+mph, you may end up with SLIGHTLY better gas mileage with the auto. but who drives like that all the time. unless your house is a 1/2 mile from the freeway, your work is a 1/2 mile from the freeway at the other end, and you never drive anywhere else than yes an auto will probably give you better gas mileage. other than that, 99% of drivers, manual will give you better gas mileage. its been proven over and over with all makes/models of cars for the most part
but the gas mileage in auto vs manual im sorry but that is not true of getting better gas mileage in a automatic. the very little added rpms from the final drive in a manual vs auto is the ONLY thing the auto has a chance at having better gas mileage with. you are forgetting about the time not spent at 70+ mph. if you filled up your box, got straight on the freeway, and drove a full tank down to nothin at 70+mph, you may end up with SLIGHTLY better gas mileage with the auto. but who drives like that all the time. unless your house is a 1/2 mile from the freeway, your work is a 1/2 mile from the freeway at the other end, and you never drive anywhere else than yes an auto will probably give you better gas mileage. other than that, 99% of drivers, manual will give you better gas mileage. its been proven over and over with all makes/models of cars for the most part
#24
Originally Posted by snowromance
but the gas mileage in auto vs manual im sorry but that is not true of getting better gas mileage in a automatic. the very little added rpms from the final drive in a manual vs auto is the ONLY thing the auto has a chance at having better gas mileage with. you are forgetting about the time not spent at 70+ mph. if you filled up your box, got straight on the freeway, and drove a full tank down to nothin at 70+mph, you may end up with SLIGHTLY better gas mileage with the auto. but who drives like that all the time. unless your house is a 1/2 mile from the freeway, your work is a 1/2 mile from the freeway at the other end, and you never drive anywhere else than yes an auto will probably give you better gas mileage. other than that, 99% of drivers, manual will give you better gas mileage. its been proven over and over with all makes/models of cars for the most part
#25
Originally Posted by pooder
Originally Posted by snowromance
but the gas mileage in auto vs manual im sorry but that is not true of getting better gas mileage in a automatic. the very little added rpms from the final drive in a manual vs auto is the ONLY thing the auto has a chance at having better gas mileage with. you are forgetting about the time not spent at 70+ mph. if you filled up your box, got straight on the freeway, and drove a full tank down to nothin at 70+mph, you may end up with SLIGHTLY better gas mileage with the auto. but who drives like that all the time. unless your house is a 1/2 mile from the freeway, your work is a 1/2 mile from the freeway at the other end, and you never drive anywhere else than yes an auto will probably give you better gas mileage. other than that, 99% of drivers, manual will give you better gas mileage. its been proven over and over with all makes/models of cars for the most part
#26
Back to the original poster....
It doesn't hurt to go to the dealer and ask for the deal YOU want. The worst thing they can do is say no. Given the fact that they need to recoupe a bit of cost for them to have put it on the lot (cleanup/maintenance/prep/etc), you're probably going to have to come up with 1000 or so to make it worth it to them.
They aren't likely to make the deal, but it really doesn't hurt to ask.
It doesn't hurt to go to the dealer and ask for the deal YOU want. The worst thing they can do is say no. Given the fact that they need to recoupe a bit of cost for them to have put it on the lot (cleanup/maintenance/prep/etc), you're probably going to have to come up with 1000 or so to make it worth it to them.
They aren't likely to make the deal, but it really doesn't hurt to ask.
#27
I just wanna thank everyone for their help. Because of two annoying snow storms last month, frigid temperatures, and the fact that a manual xB had been in dealer inventory for almost two months (according to carfax.com) the dealer made me an offer I couldn't refuse. They are even swapping out all my aftermarket parts with the stock ones and returning them to me for free! Thanks again guys!
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