bulldog_scion

I hear it expressed all the time but can find it in the search engine... What does bB mean?

gothemi8

bB is the Japanese-spec xB. When scion started they took the bB and put the steering wheel on the left and called it the xB. They did the same with the xA but i dont remeber what the Japanese model is called. If your ever in Japan you'll see the xB all over the place just as a Toyota bB, its very popular over there.

Sciond

Black Box

bulldog_scion

So is that why some people want to change the badges from XB to bB

ALL_80X3D_UP

the xA in japan is called the IST

JDMJim

original concept was black hence black box or bB.

evosky

one of the big reasons people badge as bB is because the original Japanese badging flows with the car 100x better than the scion badging.

Tomas

Yeah, the bB badge looks better than the xB pig snout on the grill.

As to the meaning of "bB" I've heard two 'theories.'

The one above that it means 'black Box," and another.

In Japan the van is called a "one box" design, a station wagon or hatchback is a "two box" design, and a standard sedan is a "three box" design.

Looking at the profile of those vehicles it is fairly easy to see what they mean.

A van is one big box, a wagon or hatchback has a small box for the engine attached to the larger box, and a sedan has a small box at each end of the large box.
The bB is a classic two box design: small box attached to a large box, or boxBOX, or bB.

Makes more sense, expecially if one looks at the official government crash test or other spec data for the bB and other similar vehicles. They are identified as "two box" styles in all the official publications.

Enjoy!

Tomas

fgmnt-of

not 100% but i think bb =basic box-basic transportation in a box format.

DaToaster

some one told me beat box but iv seen somewhere that it said black box

D_M_A_N

I think the scion logo looks better than the bB logo.
The bB logo looks like letters made of bones.
I will never put a bB logo on my box, IMO its ugly. If I ever do anything, I will just de-badge my box, but I like the scion logos on there for now.

I think alot of people like the bB's logo just cuz its JDM.

Bring on the flamin'! but thats JMO.
I guess that 'ol saying is true. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" or something like that right? I cant remember

Back to the subject... I have no clue what bB really means, I think what you guys said above about it sounds right.

maybe it stand for "Butt-ugly Badge" haha! (j/k please no one take offense)

brambling

I was looking for "black box" in the news archives and didn't come across it, but I did find out the target audience for the bB was young single men.

JDMJim

Well, alot of cars in Japan have model specific logos. e.g. Highlander=Kleuger. so there is a "K" where there would normally be a toyota logo on the grill.

Guamsilverbox671

I don't know, but I figures it was Beat Box also. The new bB in japan them was music box.

Metro273

Thanks...finally someone says how I feel! The bB badge doesn't belong on the xB...WERE NOT IN JAPAN!!!

bBlover

I don't care what anyone else thinks, I rock my bB badges all day everyday. Actually the xB badge doesn't belong on the xB. The bB badge is square like the bB so hence the design. And the reason I have bB emblems is because they look cool, they're JDM and cuz I can't have a RHD bB

Tomas

My box doesn't have either bB or xB badges (ain't shaved, either).

Front's a dragon, rear's an ( X ).

I get to be different, not just 'different like everyone else'... :D

Tomas

bB2NER

Tell that to the ones in Japan that rock Scion emblems. We eun them cuz they are different and cool knowing this is what was intended to be on these from the start. The xB thing is a mere afterthought.

bBlover

^ nice words jethro.

D_M_A_N

Hey, to each his own right?