What DON'T you like about your xB?
10-02-2005, 04:06 AM
#101
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I think I should address some of the suggestions because they kind of make this car stray in it's purpose.
For instance, the car is noisy because the asphalt insulation costs money and WEIGHS a lot. I can deal with noise, mpg is what sold me on this car. This goes with a lot of the other suggestions like lift rear glass, etc, but that doesn't mean you can't offer them as options. With that in mind....
-Center console is way too low and distracting when reaching for items.
-Everyone laughs at vanity mirror's size.
-Turning radius too wide. This is because it's front wheel drive, but I think some improvement could be made.
-An AWD/TURBO option would significantly boost sales. I want winter traction and more power.
-Improved fuel economy. Granted, it's due to the aerodynamics, but there IS room for improvement. Hybrid?
-Put Shifter where the ash tray is.
-Higher steering wheel.
-Panoramic moon roof like the tC would be a cool option I would have bought.
-Ditto for cruise control. I'm baffled why this wasn't an option.
-1st gear is useless. 5th gear is retarded for highway speeds. Stop designing transmissions for 0-60mph time measurement and start designing them for real world use. You will sell more cars.
-Flake paint jobs for limited release.
-I don't think a reclinable back seat would be hard or expensive to put in. A removable back seat would be even better when carrying cargo. Option?
-Make rear wiper an option. I never understood why you would want one.
For instance, the car is noisy because the asphalt insulation costs money and WEIGHS a lot. I can deal with noise, mpg is what sold me on this car. This goes with a lot of the other suggestions like lift rear glass, etc, but that doesn't mean you can't offer them as options. With that in mind....
-Center console is way too low and distracting when reaching for items.
-Everyone laughs at vanity mirror's size.
-Turning radius too wide. This is because it's front wheel drive, but I think some improvement could be made.
-An AWD/TURBO option would significantly boost sales. I want winter traction and more power.
-Improved fuel economy. Granted, it's due to the aerodynamics, but there IS room for improvement. Hybrid?
-Put Shifter where the ash tray is.
-Higher steering wheel.
-Panoramic moon roof like the tC would be a cool option I would have bought.
-Ditto for cruise control. I'm baffled why this wasn't an option.
-1st gear is useless. 5th gear is retarded for highway speeds. Stop designing transmissions for 0-60mph time measurement and start designing them for real world use. You will sell more cars.
-Flake paint jobs for limited release.
-I don't think a reclinable back seat would be hard or expensive to put in. A removable back seat would be even better when carrying cargo. Option?
-Make rear wiper an option. I never understood why you would want one.
10-02-2005, 06:06 AM
#102
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First of all, I have to say I LOVE my xB. I love the mpg, the ride, and the style.
My suggestions are not expensive, and to me are basic common sense. I DO want the car to stay relatively inexpensive. I do NOT want more power, I want fuel economy. If I wanted more power, I would be driving an Element or similar!
BUT:
*In cabin air filter. For the few cents it would cost, that should already be included
*Center Armrest. Just about EVERY car on the market has one, even a Kia.
*More interior lighting, especially in the cargo area. Man, what were they thinking?
*No factory cruise option. That one baffles me as well. I'll pay!!
*The visors should have a slide-out, this car has a LOT of glass and a high roof.
*Maybe a slightly different gearing for highway. 3000 rpm at 55 is a bit rediculous.
*The quality of the paint is REALLY rediculous for a car from this manufacturer
*A TEMP GUAGE!! Just stupid that it has an idiot light!!
On a side note:
*When I bought my armrest, I used the felt insert that was in that well to line the ash-tray. I just used spray adhesive, and it's a great place to put change now.
*I bought an auto-dim mirrror with Homelink, outdoor temp, compass, and coutesy lights.
I don't mind doing things myself to fix the car up the way I like it, but some of these things are about safety, and pretty basic. I can't imagine that the designers didn't think that a center armrest should be a given in a new car.
My suggestions are not expensive, and to me are basic common sense. I DO want the car to stay relatively inexpensive. I do NOT want more power, I want fuel economy. If I wanted more power, I would be driving an Element or similar!
BUT:
*In cabin air filter. For the few cents it would cost, that should already be included
*Center Armrest. Just about EVERY car on the market has one, even a Kia.
*More interior lighting, especially in the cargo area. Man, what were they thinking?
*No factory cruise option. That one baffles me as well. I'll pay!!
*The visors should have a slide-out, this car has a LOT of glass and a high roof.
*Maybe a slightly different gearing for highway. 3000 rpm at 55 is a bit rediculous.
*The quality of the paint is REALLY rediculous for a car from this manufacturer
*A TEMP GUAGE!! Just stupid that it has an idiot light!!
On a side note:
*When I bought my armrest, I used the felt insert that was in that well to line the ash-tray. I just used spray adhesive, and it's a great place to put change now.
*I bought an auto-dim mirrror with Homelink, outdoor temp, compass, and coutesy lights.
I don't mind doing things myself to fix the car up the way I like it, but some of these things are about safety, and pretty basic. I can't imagine that the designers didn't think that a center armrest should be a given in a new car.
10-02-2005, 07:02 AM
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why you peeps gotta complain for. yo ugot a damn scion for crying out loud. pimpaass cars. so what if you dont have cruise control, so what if the cars only 108 hp. they made the trans short to compinsate for that. i gotta admit, car is a really quick thing, has good throttle response, good pickup. lastnight i took my car on a side road, lots of hairpins, lots of big curves, gotta admit, didnt go under 40 mph. felt like i was driving my hachiroku again. i swear that car can handle. i have no complaints about it. if you wanna keep complaining...you dont deserve one. sell it back, trade it for a honda. but STOP complaining. be happy
10-02-2005, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by crazy_kat_matt
why you peeps gotta complain for. yo ugot a damn scion for crying out loud. pimpaass cars. so what if you dont have cruise control, so what if the cars only 108 hp. they made the trans short to compinsate for that. i gotta admit, car is a really quick thing, has good throttle response, good pickup. lastnight i took my car on a side road, lots of hairpins, lots of big curves, gotta admit, didnt go under 40 mph. felt like i was driving my hachiroku again. i swear that car can handle. i have no complaints about it. if you wanna keep complaining...you dont deserve one. sell it back, trade it for a honda. but STOP complaining. be happy
Lighten up Frances!
10-02-2005, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dgboggs
*I bought an auto-dim mirrror with Homelink, outdoor temp, compass, and coutesy lights.
I don't mind doing things myself to fix the car up the way I like it, but some of these things are about safety, and pretty basic. I can't imagine that the designers didn't think that a center armrest should be a given in a new car.
10-02-2005, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by crazy_kat_matt
why you peeps gotta complain for. yo ugot a damn scion for crying out loud. pimpaass cars. so what if you dont have cruise control, so what if the cars only 108 hp. they made the trans short to compinsate for that. i gotta admit, car is a really quick thing, has good throttle response, good pickup. lastnight i took my car on a side road, lots of hairpins, lots of big curves, gotta admit, didnt go under 40 mph. felt like i was driving my hachiroku again. i swear that car can handle. i have no complaints about it. if you wanna keep complaining...you dont deserve one. sell it back, trade it for a honda. but STOP complaining. be happy
Wow, that is pretty bold... saying it is even close to like driving an AE86. FWD and RWD are two totally different animals...
10-02-2005, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Romanova
Originally Posted by crazy_kat_matt
why you peeps gotta complain for. yo ugot a damn scion for crying out loud. pimpaass cars. so what if you dont have cruise control, so what if the cars only 108 hp. they made the trans short to compinsate for that. i gotta admit, car is a really quick thing, has good throttle response, good pickup. lastnight i took my car on a side road, lots of hairpins, lots of big curves, gotta admit, didnt go under 40 mph. felt like i was driving my hachiroku again. i swear that car can handle. i have no complaints about it. if you wanna keep complaining...you dont deserve one. sell it back, trade it for a honda. but STOP complaining. be happy
Wow, that is pretty bold... saying it is even close to like driving an AE86. FWD and RWD are two totally different animals...
10-04-2005, 08:25 PM
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Needs: one more power outlet, integrated roof rack, better quality plastic in interior, better interior light, awd option (I live in snowy Buffalo), HU with external aux input (I've replaced my factory HU with one that lets me plug in my ipod).
10-06-2005, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by OneBadBox
For those of you that think the turning radius is too wide, What the heck were you driving before?
Question for all the people who are complaining about the paint.....what years are your xB's...i just ordered an 06 and i'm really hoping i dont have paint issues....
10-08-2005, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bellnier
Needs: one more power outlet, integrated roof rack, better quality plastic in interior, better interior light, awd option (I live in snowy Buffalo), HU with external aux input (I've replaced my factory HU with one that lets me plug in my ipod).
10-09-2005, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jaimecosio
people looking me when im driving
It says hate not like 
Seriously though. The only things I hate is the fact we had to pay for a wiper and a hole in our rear hatch that we didn't want and the lack of interesting paint colors. Why do they have to have so many drab boring colors (BCP, Lava and Yellow excluded)
Oh and why didn't they chrome plate the Scion and xB emblems? That's 'bout it.
