Whats the XB's biggest flaw??
03-06-2004 | 06:18 AM
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Is anyone else driven crazy by the speedometer? I would never have imagined that having only the even speeds marked on the dial (ie 20, 40, 60, instead of 30, 50, 70 mph) would matter, but after a month I'm still not used to it, and somehow it's hard to get at a glance, the exact speed with just those tiny little hatch marks . Maybe because around here the speeds to watch are 30 mph in the towns ( where some zealous cops will have speed traps for over 32 mph) and 70 on the highway, which is the de facto "safe" limit whether it's posted 55 or 65. I guess I was just too used to 20 years of the old 'Yota pickup gauges.
Tell me I'm not nuts and just getting cranky in my old age.
I'm happier with the power than I expected to be, but that's with the 5-speed. It *would* be nice if it was a 6-speed...
Tell me I'm not nuts and just getting cranky in my old age.
I'm happier with the power than I expected to be, but that's with the 5-speed. It *would* be nice if it was a 6-speed...
JKThe only part that bugs me is the bright whiteness. Gonna do the Indiglo maneuver soon...
03-06-2004 | 03:51 PM
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Re: LACK of cargo room
Originally Posted by TSiAWD
Guys: The xb will BARELY take a stroller! TURNED ON END not even laid flat on the floor!
That is the entire cargo area.
Had more room in the trunk of a 94 saturn.
In other word I couldn't get the OVERPRICED ACCESSORIES like the bazooka tube or cargo cover or cargo net. None of them fit.
THe rear seat might as well tilt back too, you sure can't carry groceries in the back!
I want an accessory armrest too.
That is the entire cargo area.
Had more room in the trunk of a 94 saturn.
In other word I couldn't get the OVERPRICED ACCESSORIES like the bazooka tube or cargo cover or cargo net. None of them fit.
THe rear seat might as well tilt back too, you sure can't carry groceries in the back!
I want an accessory armrest too.
03-06-2004 | 06:39 PM
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No arm rest, no cruise control, and a chip in the windshield here too. But I also think that the sun visors do not provide NEARLY enough coverage on the sides. Only about half of the window, and the sun is right next to me when I drive home in the afternoons. My visor is useless. Floor mats wear too easily. There isn't much cargo room, but I don't need it as much as say, a family with kids in the back seats. But for all my little gripes, I still wouldn't trade it for anything. It is one hot automobile. Besides, with the last car I had, I would say this is a 1000000% improvement, and you can't have everything for the price. Still a great value.
03-06-2004 | 06:56 PM
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i forgot the sun visor! Thanks Love My Hotbox!
i have the same problem with my visor on the side window, but when i put up a thread on this long ago, no one else seemed to have that problem but me....nice to know i am not alone :mrgreen:
but i do not think that the windshield being hit by rocks or whatever is a flaw as some have mentioned....it happens to all cars.....
i have the same problem with my visor on the side window, but when i put up a thread on this long ago, no one else seemed to have that problem but me....nice to know i am not alone :mrgreen:
but i do not think that the windshield being hit by rocks or whatever is a flaw as some have mentioned....it happens to all cars.....
03-07-2004 | 05:15 AM
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Is it just me or does the steering wheel feel really low in comparison for most cars... I'm not Yao Ming just 6 foot.
Oh and if yo wonna be really nit picky a lumbar would have been super sweet.... what would it cost toyota 75cents to include it in the vehicle stock and it would make folks greatly more satisfied... in opinion... I'm sorry got a bad back and lumbar would be _____in'.
A BIG BIG props to everyone for responding with your feedback and supporting this thread.
-will
Oh and if yo wonna be really nit picky a lumbar would have been super sweet.... what would it cost toyota 75cents to include it in the vehicle stock and it would make folks greatly more satisfied... in opinion... I'm sorry got a bad back and lumbar would be _____in'.
A BIG BIG props to everyone for responding with your feedback and supporting this thread.
-will
03-07-2004 | 10:30 AM
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To tell you the truth, i really don't have any complaints with my xB. I used to drive a 2000 Civic Si prior to purchasing the xB and knew what i was getting into. Obviously this car isn't as fast (in civic terms) as the Si but it's a sick lookin' ride. What really made me trade in my civic was its unique look, mileage and imagined it dropped on 18's or 19's, which further convinced me.
03-07-2004 | 10:43 PM
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Re: LACK of cargo room
Originally Posted by TSiAWD
Guys: The xb will BARELY take a stroller! TURNED ON END not even laid flat on the floor!
That is the entire cargo area.
Had more room in the trunk of a 94 saturn.
That is the entire cargo area.
Had more room in the trunk of a 94 saturn.
Originally Posted by TSiAWD
In other word I couldn't get the OVERPRICED ACCESSORIES like the bazooka tube or cargo cover or cargo net. None of them fit.
Originally Posted by TSiAWD
THe rear seat might as well tilt back too, you sure can't carry groceries in the back!
We seem to have no problem with putting a week's groceries for a family of four behind the seat. More than that, well, that's why the seats fold!
George
03-07-2004 | 11:30 PM
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was expecting crack
Armrests would be great, other than that I couldn't think of anything that wouldn't affect the price, or isn't already available...
And for the record I got a fist sized piece of wood flung at my car from a big ___ Silverado yesterday, and it chipped my windshield only, I was expecting at least a crack...
And for the record I got a fist sized piece of wood flung at my car from a big ___ Silverado yesterday, and it chipped my windshield only, I was expecting at least a crack...
03-08-2004 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by yanges
Originally Posted by SciJen
Originally Posted by yanges
armrest!
no cruise control!
no cruise control!
as for the turn signal getting in the way, the one i have has an articulating arm you can bend several different directions...
i bent it a little further away from the turn signal and it does not hinder it at all now.....
I don't like the "extra stalk" control, as I already have too many stalks on the steering column. I also don't trust the plastic to support the aftermarket stalk in the long run.
Here are a couple of alternatives. First a steering wheel mounted RF control:
Next is a panel mount switch that might go well in the switch holes just ahead of the shift lever:
You could also use your own switches, as the Globalcruis manual gives the schematic for the switches.
AFAIK, the Audiovox cruise controls are the same as the Rostra Globalcruise units. Audiovox is a distrubutor for Rostra.
The Rostra site used to be very helpful, but I can't find the pictures of the control units that used to be there. You can still download the manuals, though.
George
03-08-2004 | 01:08 AM
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Lots of people with armrest needs, not me. Nor do I think its too skinny, seems roomy. But cruise, yes how I miss thee. I will eventually upgrade when I can afford it.
The biggest problem: Body colored bumpers! Whose idea was this? Now every time someone makes the slightest mistake in parking my paint job has to suffer for it on a permanent basis. Simple fix= get it repainted. GENIOUS! I park my car like it has some kind of disease, far away from the civilized world. Mind you, this is not exclusively a Scion problem, but it needs attending to.
The biggest problem: Body colored bumpers! Whose idea was this? Now every time someone makes the slightest mistake in parking my paint job has to suffer for it on a permanent basis. Simple fix= get it repainted. GENIOUS! I park my car like it has some kind of disease, far away from the civilized world. Mind you, this is not exclusively a Scion problem, but it needs attending to.
03-08-2004 | 02:00 AM
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Yeah, I got a tree for the cruise in the Cherry xB.. If it turns out I get another, I'll def. get the paddle for the steering wheel. The tree is easy enough to use and isn't in the way (my model is slightly diff. than the one shown above).. but my contour has it on the steering wheel and it's just much easier to use.
03-08-2004 | 01:05 PM
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Re: LACK of cargo room
Originally Posted by George
Originally Posted by TSiAWD
Guys: The xb will BARELY take a stroller! TURNED ON END not even laid flat on the floor!
That is the entire cargo area.
Had more room in the trunk of a 94 saturn.
That is the entire cargo area.
Had more room in the trunk of a 94 saturn.
George
This is a discussion of the vehicle's flaws.
I am willing to put up with what seems like the complete lack of cargo room (although it is merely 1/2 of the cargo room before the stereo install in comparison to the room after stereo install of every other car I ever owned, including my 74 mgb) and lack of power and AWD to save 10K versus a Turbo Forrester. At least for now.
The xB is not a tiny little car. The Smart car is tiny, the Suzuki aerio is tiny. The xB might qualify as subcompact, but it isn't Tiny.
03-08-2004 | 04:05 PM
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I don't like the damned rattle in the back seat. I am going to try and fix it myself. I don't want anybody else to touch my xB unless absolutely necessary.
I don't like how the rear bumper protrudes so much and there isn't a barrier for cargo. For instance i was carrying stepping stones in the back of my xB and when I arived at home I opened the trunk and one slid out and scratched the ____ out of my bumper.
I like the amber interior lights but think that the interior should come the same color.
I really like my xB overall. Those are minor complaints.
I don't like how the rear bumper protrudes so much and there isn't a barrier for cargo. For instance i was carrying stepping stones in the back of my xB and when I arived at home I opened the trunk and one slid out and scratched the ____ out of my bumper.
I like the amber interior lights but think that the interior should come the same color.
I really like my xB overall. Those are minor complaints.
