Whats the XB's biggest flaw??
#81
Oh yeah, the gas pump clicking is annoying.
Now if you really want to get petty, I can't reach the controls easily. I'm an average height girl (5'6") and if my husband screws with the mirrors, I have to lean forward to readjust, lean back and check, lean forward and readjust some more, etc. But I just don't let him drive much.
Anyone else had any problems hitting the sensor for left-turn lanes? There's a couple by me that I get stuck at and have to wait for a few light cycles before someone else pulls up and hits the sensors. Is my car too light? Or does Anaheim and Santa Ana just have bad sensors?
Now if you really want to get petty, I can't reach the controls easily. I'm an average height girl (5'6") and if my husband screws with the mirrors, I have to lean forward to readjust, lean back and check, lean forward and readjust some more, etc. But I just don't let him drive much.
Anyone else had any problems hitting the sensor for left-turn lanes? There's a couple by me that I get stuck at and have to wait for a few light cycles before someone else pulls up and hits the sensors. Is my car too light? Or does Anaheim and Santa Ana just have bad sensors?
#83
6th gear would be nice.
I would complain about other details, like wind noise and getting tossed around on windy days and windshields being crack-prone, but the shape is what drew me to the car in the first place- a wise person once said:
"You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both, and there you have:
the facts of life, the facts of life!"
One thing Toyota should look into is making its engine families similar. The Honda B-series was one of the reasons for the import revolution- easy motor swaps for better power to weight ratios. If Toyota made it easier to drop a Celica motor and 6 speed in an xB, you'd hear a lot less griping on this thread!
-Phil
I would complain about other details, like wind noise and getting tossed around on windy days and windshields being crack-prone, but the shape is what drew me to the car in the first place- a wise person once said:
"You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both, and there you have:
the facts of life, the facts of life!"
One thing Toyota should look into is making its engine families similar. The Honda B-series was one of the reasons for the import revolution- easy motor swaps for better power to weight ratios. If Toyota made it easier to drop a Celica motor and 6 speed in an xB, you'd hear a lot less griping on this thread!
-Phil
#84
Originally Posted by boxzila
6th gear would be nice.
I would complain about other details, like wind noise and getting tossed around on windy days and windshields being crack-prone, but the shape is what drew me to the car in the first place- a wise person once said:
"You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both, and there you have:
the facts of life, the facts of life!"
One thing Toyota should look into is making its engine families similar. The Honda B-series was one of the reasons for the import revolution- easy motor swaps for better power to weight ratios. If Toyota made it easier to drop a Celica motor and 6 speed in an xB, you'd hear a lot less griping on this thread!
-Phil
I would complain about other details, like wind noise and getting tossed around on windy days and windshields being crack-prone, but the shape is what drew me to the car in the first place- a wise person once said:
"You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both, and there you have:
the facts of life, the facts of life!"
One thing Toyota should look into is making its engine families similar. The Honda B-series was one of the reasons for the import revolution- easy motor swaps for better power to weight ratios. If Toyota made it easier to drop a Celica motor and 6 speed in an xB, you'd hear a lot less griping on this thread!
-Phil
#85
OK, all the _____ing must quit. We all purchased this car for two reasons:
1) we love the way it looks, and
2) the price is amazing
So...want all those extras and changes you are longing for? Then the car will start at 18K and change, not 13K and change. The bulk of the gripes here are silly, especially if you would like to keep the vehicle as affordable as it is.
There are some legitimate ergonomic issues for some people, some which should have been corrected by Toyota in development w/o any extra cost to the buyer, but for the most part, this is a highly satisfactory vehicle for the price.
I would have added the front dome/map light to the xB that is standard in the xA. If you drive a manual (like I do) an armrest would be VERY BAD. The very low gearing makes us all feel like we need a 6th gear when going 80 (yes, some of us commute and actually go 80, like in a 70 mph zone.) Cruising at 4000 rpm can be a little unnerving.
Cruise control, it's an option, I got one, in my manual, though it hasn't come in yet and will be installed when it does. Sunroof!? Get an aftermarket one if you want one so badly. The leak like Niagra falls half the time, so beware.
As for the "True Pricing", it is an introductory thing, just like it was in Saturn dealerships. By 2006, it will be gone, trust me.
As for the light chanmge sensors in the pavement in Anaheim. If they're like any other ones, the are not pressure sensitive, they're electromagnetic sensitive and detect the metal body and chassis of your car. Weight has nothing to do with it.
1) we love the way it looks, and
2) the price is amazing
So...want all those extras and changes you are longing for? Then the car will start at 18K and change, not 13K and change. The bulk of the gripes here are silly, especially if you would like to keep the vehicle as affordable as it is.
There are some legitimate ergonomic issues for some people, some which should have been corrected by Toyota in development w/o any extra cost to the buyer, but for the most part, this is a highly satisfactory vehicle for the price.
I would have added the front dome/map light to the xB that is standard in the xA. If you drive a manual (like I do) an armrest would be VERY BAD. The very low gearing makes us all feel like we need a 6th gear when going 80 (yes, some of us commute and actually go 80, like in a 70 mph zone.) Cruising at 4000 rpm can be a little unnerving.
Cruise control, it's an option, I got one, in my manual, though it hasn't come in yet and will be installed when it does. Sunroof!? Get an aftermarket one if you want one so badly. The leak like Niagra falls half the time, so beware.
As for the "True Pricing", it is an introductory thing, just like it was in Saturn dealerships. By 2006, it will be gone, trust me.
As for the light chanmge sensors in the pavement in Anaheim. If they're like any other ones, the are not pressure sensitive, they're electromagnetic sensitive and detect the metal body and chassis of your car. Weight has nothing to do with it.
#86
okay, first off, the scions are sweet.
every car you buy will have annoying little (or big) things about it, especially if the car is an economy car and priced well under 20k like the scion.
lets be realistic people. we didn't buy these cars to drag in. my 5sp is fine with me, and i owned a ford taurus SHO before this that moved much better than the scion. the fact is that the scion isn't a crappy car to drive, its rather fun actually.
whatever, call me an optimist, but since we have these cars, lets focus on what RULES about them... not every little thing thats off about them....
my 2cents
every car you buy will have annoying little (or big) things about it, especially if the car is an economy car and priced well under 20k like the scion.
lets be realistic people. we didn't buy these cars to drag in. my 5sp is fine with me, and i owned a ford taurus SHO before this that moved much better than the scion. the fact is that the scion isn't a crappy car to drive, its rather fun actually.
whatever, call me an optimist, but since we have these cars, lets focus on what RULES about them... not every little thing thats off about them....
my 2cents
#91
1900 miles and 3 1/2 weeks into my RS1 and by far there are 3 things that are killing me....
1. As previously stated and once again.... 4kRPM @ 80MPH w/ the 5spd... WTF???
I can't imagine what my aftermarket exhaust will sound like on the freeway once i get it... I will have to yell at the passengers to communicate.
2. The EPA must be snorting a line to think my 5spd could ever accomplish 35mpg on the highway... even at 55MPH, driving it like a senior citizen I can only get 29MPG... thats less than the 31 to 40 range given on the sticker for highway. Total BS... I wouldnt be suprized if more folks start writing to toyota and the EPA about this ____.
3. Lighting... not a bit gripe but yeah... the interior needs more lighting.
Overall though I have been happy. Knowing what i know now about the gas mileage, I WOULD WITHOUT A DOUBT THINK TWICE about purchasing it, more than anything ultimately the RS1 sold it for me... without it... there is a good chance I would went with something else. It seems toyota brought the car over with letting 1 american drive it on the american street for at least a month and get his feedback. Most of the complaints people are saying are just BASIC common sense requests, not rocket science, I think thats what make the few flaws the XB has soooo very annoying.
1. As previously stated and once again.... 4kRPM @ 80MPH w/ the 5spd... WTF???
I can't imagine what my aftermarket exhaust will sound like on the freeway once i get it... I will have to yell at the passengers to communicate.
2. The EPA must be snorting a line to think my 5spd could ever accomplish 35mpg on the highway... even at 55MPH, driving it like a senior citizen I can only get 29MPG... thats less than the 31 to 40 range given on the sticker for highway. Total BS... I wouldnt be suprized if more folks start writing to toyota and the EPA about this ____.
3. Lighting... not a bit gripe but yeah... the interior needs more lighting.
Overall though I have been happy. Knowing what i know now about the gas mileage, I WOULD WITHOUT A DOUBT THINK TWICE about purchasing it, more than anything ultimately the RS1 sold it for me... without it... there is a good chance I would went with something else. It seems toyota brought the car over with letting 1 american drive it on the american street for at least a month and get his feedback. Most of the complaints people are saying are just BASIC common sense requests, not rocket science, I think thats what make the few flaws the XB has soooo very annoying.
#92
Well my major gripe is the sun visor. What's the point of it when you have to use it for your driver's side window? All they had to do was make it so it can be extended. Anyone know of a fix for this or some aftermarket visor possibly? I really don't want to get one of those add on extenders.
#94
My biggest pet peeves so far are:
I wish it had a center armrest
No cruise control coming standard (nor as an option at the dealership where I got mine)
No Moonroof...I'm not paying 2,000 for an aftermarket installation...
No roofrack...Not that I'd use it all the time, but it would look really nice with my surfboard attached to it!!!
No standard alloys/rims on the Hot Lava...For it being a limited edition, I think the hubcaps should be outlawed...I got jipped...
That Is All
DAN
I wish it had a center armrest
No cruise control coming standard (nor as an option at the dealership where I got mine)
No Moonroof...I'm not paying 2,000 for an aftermarket installation...
No roofrack...Not that I'd use it all the time, but it would look really nice with my surfboard attached to it!!!
No standard alloys/rims on the Hot Lava...For it being a limited edition, I think the hubcaps should be outlawed...I got jipped...
That Is All
DAN
#97
My gripes:
1. No cruise control.
2. No light in rear compartment.
3. Controls in dash/doors are not lighted at night.
4. RS1 did not receive an external badge.
5. No armrest.
6. Door lock pulls are not flush with door when locked.
7. Doors need to be unlocked before they can be opened.
Other than these minor things, I love my box and it is a pleasure to drive.
I plan to mod it to change most of these problems, but it would be nice if I didn't have to.
1. No cruise control.
2. No light in rear compartment.
3. Controls in dash/doors are not lighted at night.
4. RS1 did not receive an external badge.
5. No armrest.
6. Door lock pulls are not flush with door when locked.
7. Doors need to be unlocked before they can be opened.
Other than these minor things, I love my box and it is a pleasure to drive.
I plan to mod it to change most of these problems, but it would be nice if I didn't have to.
#98
Originally Posted by 7red7
No roofrack...Not that I'd use it all the time, but it would look really nice with my surfboard attached to it!!!
#99
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no crate motor for swap when people were looking at young generations trying to come out wit something that speaks to us and then they went a step above and made it fully costumizable not wheres my replacement motor or block or head or anything i can blot in to give me more power besides a super uper duper charger or a turbo i dont want to stress my motorf out just get a motor with more force
#100
Problems with the XB
1: The interior does scratch a bit!
2: Armrest would be good but they offer aftermarket now!
3: Auto locking doors at 15 MPH and unlocking doors when you pull the handle.
4: 5 speed shifter seems weak!
Otherwise it is a fun car to drive!
2: Armrest would be good but they offer aftermarket now!
3: Auto locking doors at 15 MPH and unlocking doors when you pull the handle.
4: 5 speed shifter seems weak!
Otherwise it is a fun car to drive!